In a few posts some people have said it can take years to really master SS. Is that really true?

I want to get better at PU and this seems like something that can get me the results I want, but if isn't legitimate I don't want to spend all that time working on something that won't get any result.

Before I really dedicate myself to it can someone tell me if it's really something that will take that long to get good at and become useful?

Also, I was wondering what would be a good place to start learning the techniques? I looked at the stickes but it seems like those resources are for NLP. I read that SS is like a subset of NLP that's just focused on PU. Is that accurate? And does that mean that I should only focus on SS and not general NLP stuff?

What's SS?

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Speed Seduction?

SS stands for Speed Seduction, it's a NLP based seduction system created by Ross Jefferies around 1993.

Years, that's a gross exaggeration. I would say it depends on person to person. If one starts implementing as soon as they watch the videos, etc.. the learning curve will be cut dramatically. I'm part of the Coaching Program so I hear of the results of other students and many are very satisfied.

Yes, the purpose of SS is seduction but it can also be carried into other areas. I would recommend starting from purely a seduction stand point. In my opinion, for PU it would be easier to learn SS than general NLP because PU is the format it's taught in and for.

Edit: Forgot, you can start with the speed seduction for free.

I believe it depends on your personal inner beliefs (inner game). If it's solid, you can probably pick it up pretty fast. If not, you have to get that sorted first before trying any fancy NLP seduction techniques. They aren't a quick fix.

i agree with the inner game comment you have to master your inner game first, ive looked at ss for about 2-3 years and it doesnt take years to master it, it depends on how much you practice it, its working on the language patterns, memorising the weasal phrases and patterns, then making the patterns sound natural. i never studied just ss, i looked at natural game and aspects of venusian arts, the patterns are phrases and stories that lead the imagination and help the hb feel the emotions or state you want her to feel. but you have to approach and open then make her feel comfortable before using a language pattern, its not as if you can just walk up to her go straight into a pattern and she'll get horny and have sex with you there has to be a level of rapport first

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Is that a book or video or something?

I'm approaching right now but it doesn't seem to go anywhere. You're saying that this combined with what I've been doing so far can help?

Also, if the pattern is used with come comfort then can it possible be used for things like one night stands?

It's a free video course made by jefferies teaching some SS.
I'm not sure about the inner game stuff(maybe it's the term), frankly I've never had probables with that really but a right frame and state are essential.

You can start by simply asking better questions that require her to go into the emotional state to answer. Try for rapport first with playing fun games.

Thanks for the responses. I am going to get that free video and then go through the workbook. Those seem to be the main things that I can find on SS.

Any other suggestions on materials?

Also, would I be correct in assuming that you use SS succesfully?

The best material out there by far is Igor Ledchowski's "conversational Hypnosis" course,you will find so much that you can apply to SS it's unreal.

20% of SS will give you 80% of your results so I suggest you start with learning first the principles of.

1/ Embedded suggestions using weasel phrases
2/ Frame control
3/ linguistic inducement of revivifications
4/ BMIR's recognition and construction
5/ Anchoring

Research for a month,field test for a month then pick what works best for you then use that as a foundation to build your own methods that apply to your own identity,this will give you fast results to motivate you further.Like anyting else the more you practice the better you become.

That's a secret.