Hello everyone, im new at the game, ive read Mystery Method and am now reading magic bullets and Ross Jeffries Secrets of Speed Seduction. Ive only been out in the field a few times with limited success.

Now that thats outta the way, my question is when do you use NLP and Jeffries speed seduction? To be fair I've yet to finish Jeffries book so he may yet mention this, but it seems that in order to use NLP you first must open a set and attract your target to some degree.

Therefore in that regard, to use terms from mystery method, is it true that you first must isolate your target (reaching the comfort phase) before you begin to truly run patterns on her?

Thanks for the input

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For what you are thinking about, it doesn't matter at what point in time you use it. It matters that you use it when you have two things:

-the frame
-a relatively undisturbed SPAM.

Interjection here; what is the frame again? (I've listened to the tapes)

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If you meet her in the day time and she's by herself, you can do SS Patterns in the first couple of minutes of talking with her provided you set the context for it.

It's hard to define what a frame is. But, I can give you examples. It is closely related to subcommunication.

1. When a girl leans in to talk to you, you've framed it so that it appears you have higher value than her since she is doing more work to talk to you.

2. When you and a girl go inside a store together, you've set up a commonality frame.

3. When you do conspiracy routines (a MM thing), you've set a "its me and you against everybody else" frame.

You can also use words to set frames-phrases that subcommunicate certain things.

1. (use an opener that will get a laugh) "I'm so glad you laughed, because I had to make sure you had a sense of humor before I introduced myself" sets a screening frame.

2. (after she shows you an IOI or just does something good) "That deserves at least a little hug" sets a frame that you're screening her. Also gives you kino.

3. "You seem adventurous.." sets a challenging frame in which you are testing her ability to be adventurous. You can also use other things like open-minded, smart, excited, daring, etc.

4. "Not many people know about this/understand this/can imagine this..." this sets a challenging frame, will she be able to understand what you are about to say next?

5. "come over here, and I'll tell you things about yourself that not even your best friends would know about you.." sets an opportunity frame..this phrase is often used before doing hand writing analysis routines