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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2009 8:59 am 
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Mostly my game excludes almost all aspects of Speed Seduction and NLP, however I over the last few months I have attempted to study it and incorporate it into my game. I'm running into some problems.

I have tried using Jeffries' 'Incredible Connection' pattern with women before (I have supplied the specific pattern below) but almost always, in fact yes always, instead of associating that connection with me the girl instead either remembers or dwells on a connection she has with a crush/ex-BF/current BF. As far as I know my delivery is pretty good (I have had voice training from a young age and speak slowly and articulately) so i don't know what the problem is. If the issue is delivery, is there some kind of guide about how to speak properly for this technology?

Now, I've read on FastSeduction that some girls who are already emotionally involved (eg have a crush of boyfriend) won't respond to this kind of stuff, but will respond to the sexual metaphor...have I interpreted this right? Any ideas here would be helpful.

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"Did you ever . . instantly know you were going to like and trust someone for a long, long time? (sp). Like maybe even though you only knew them for a short while . . it seemed like you had known them your whole life, as if there were this timeless connection between you and them (point from her to you). I mean, you know that feeling of incredible bonding, when all barriers just drop away and melt and you just feel totally comfortable and at ease with them (sp). And its like maybe you were even able to (And you might find that you are able to) imagine a time in the future, say years from now, still being incredibly connected to this person (sp) and looking back on today as having been the start of it? I just think that's the neatest think when a person can . . go inside and . . instantly recognize all those qualities and values in that other person, that . . lets that connection take place with someone (point) . . with me, it usually takes a bit longer.

But when you really FEEL A CONNECTION WITH SOMEONE. You know that mysterious, timeless link that just makes you feel like you've known someone forever...like you were meant to know them....and it's almost like YOU'RE LOOKING RIGHT AT YOUR FUTURE...like YOUR FUTURE IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU...when you FEEL THAT...it all starts out as an actual physical click... a tug that takes place right...(raise your hand over your head, point your index finger, and then SLOWLY bring it down straight down the middle of her face, without touching her until you get to her solar plexus, just below her breasts)..THERE!(touch her solar plexus) Can you FEEL THAT(squeeze her hand with your free hand) is maybe how that can happen...NOW...WITH ME...I just find that's such a great feeling...isn't it?
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 10:47 pm 
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First of all, great post, great question. It's nice to read someone asking about their field experiences and not just theory they grabbed off the net.
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Now, I've read on FastSeduction that some girls who are already emotionally involved (eg have a crush of boyfriend) won't respond to this kind of stuff, but will respond to the sexual metaphor...have I interpreted this right? Any ideas here would be helpful.
I don't think this is true at all...perhaps I don't know the context in which that person said that. Metaphors are difficult to use well. I never really use them in my game, although I intend to experiment more with them at a later date. At face value they appear to be too much hassle for accomplishing proportionately very little (although I intend to use them for LMR).

Anyway, back to the point. There are many incredible connection patterns/many versions of THE pattern. Your problem is not uncommon. Here is in my opinion, the best way to get around it:

First, you have to understand that even though the girl may be thinking about past experiences, the main point is that she is truly EXPERIENCING those feelings of trust/connection/attraction etc. You will notice her body language and voice tonality change. Pay attention to breathing rate, flushing of cheeks, change in posture, eye accessing cues etc. Next time she comes back to talk to you, she will associate these feelings with you, even though she thought about someone else. You are invoking physiological responses of attraction, and that can't be a bad thing whoever it's for! Have you ever got a girl's buying temperature high, then left her only to see her get with some random dude?

Of course, you do want her at some point to consciously associate these feelings to you, not just unconsciously. Now, the best way in my opinion is to fractionate. That is, at timed intervals in your patterning, stop and make a comment in the present tense, connecting you and her. Then go back to the pattern. Repeat this a few times, and make it natural/congruent/calibrated. You can break rapport when you do this, then resume the pattern. This form of fractionation is just. So. Freakin. Powerful. Even if you don't calibrate the first part of the pattern, once you start fractionating their bitch shield will disintegrate into thin air.

Example:

"It's amazing. Did you ever find your self feeling that incredible connection with someone (sp), and as you hear his voice, you felt all those wonderfully exciting feelings rushing up...from here...by the way, your skin seems totally smooth (stroke it, then pull back and pretend you got grease on your hand and rub it on her teasing/jokingly)...it's funny you know, it's like those feelings I were talking about. I mean I'm curious, when you're talking to someone (sp) who you find amazingly attractive, what's the first thing you feel, deep down inside, that allows you to realise...you're really....attracted....to this person (sp)...etc etc.

Now, because you are bringing the state/energy/symbol back to you every time, she will connect the pattern more to you. Remember to use the self-point more as well. You can pronounce it quite heavily sometimes without them realising, depending on how deep in trance they are. You can also ask them a question about you, this immediately gets them thinking about you, but can look needy.

I developed this idea of fractionation largely from In10SE's stuff on symbolism. It's very effective and you can really appreciate this once you imagine the incredible results that await you.

As an added touch, you can even have a certain voice tonality, or shift body language every time you go back to the pattern. This works as an anchor and will get her right back into that trance (+ DDBL) every time.

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