NLP for resolving conflict?



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 11:32 pm 
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Hey Guys,
I know very little about NLP and don't really want to use it manipulate women as I feel I don't have to.

However, I wonder if there's a good way of using it to resolve conflict, by bringing a guy onside, I get amogged a bit when I go out and sometimes things escalate :P

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 Post subject: Conflict Resolution
PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 2:54 pm 
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Great thing about NLP is amogging doesn't happen quite as often. Let me check my swap file and I'll drum up something quick, simple and effective for you.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 11:07 pm 
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hehe cheers ;)

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 Post subject: AMOG Crusher v1.0
PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 4:29 pm 
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On the fly AMOG Crusher v1.0

Ok, it's said the best defense is a good offense. In this line of thinking, and with NLP, you are better off controlling the frame of reference right from the start. This is rather simple to do. Once you've done that, you just make the AMOG go away.

DISCLAIMERS:
-I'm not responsible for your use of this or any pattern
-If it's not congruent with you, work on it so it works for you and let's share knowledge, not blatant criticism. Leave the whining to the AMOGs
-Some would say this is slightly unethical. I say it's not about seducing a woman so much as it's about beating the competition. They blatantly decide to take you on, ok. Give them a run for their money. Everything shy of a hard, swift kick in the groin is fair game.
-Some would also say "what you do comes back to you". Again, it's about competition, not harmful mind-screwing. You can be the lion or the gazzelle. The choice is yours.
-My experience has taught me that having someone in ear-shot of a pattern does not effect them. This interaction is between you and him. Establishing the rapport necessary will make this process easier and when it's time to break that rapport you can go back to your already established connection with the lady in question.

Amog: Hey baby, blah blah, grunt grunt, chortle chortle

You: Dude, I'm glad you showed up. It just so happens that I was about to ask my lady friend(gesture between you and her) something, but I wanted to look for someone else to ask.

We're all adults here, and we've all had bad days, you know? (Get agreement). You know those days you have when you have an off-night? Like you show up to a place like this, hear the music, see the commotion of the crowd and you start to feel your a-game disappear. It's weird because you don't think about rejection when you approach someone, but maybe you see this woman(gesture subtly to her), and perhaps she's alone or maybe she's already with someone (subtle point to self) and as you had put yourself in an awkward mood, you start to hear this voice say "she will reject you".

But you know we men, we don't tend to think about rejection a lot so you walk up to this woman (gesture to her), and right as you go to say something she looks you in the eyes and says "go away, leave us alone, go somewhere else". It's weird because for the rest of the night, you can't help but to hear her voice say those words. But I want to know what she thinks, excuse me.

THE END, just pick up back with her and carry on. Beyond that, if he continues, he's just rude, ignorant, and not getting anywhere, period. By the frame you've set, if he tries to cut you off (ie "man I don't want to talk to you I want to talk to her" etc.), that's not an AMOG, that's an afc that just showed his true colors.

1.Italicized words are embedded commands. Say what comes before them then (pause) and drop your tone of voice. Questions should end on a downward tone to indicate a command. Practice at it you'll be alright.

2.Quotes should be said while looking in his eyes. Because you're referencing someone else, he can't cut you off with the "gay" thing without looking childish. You're just relaying a story. Innocent enough.

3.Gesture between you and her in the first bit while saying "my lady friend". It subtly suggests a union, and you can look at her just after you say it and smile. She'll smile back. That helps the frame seem more concrete to him.

4.The other gestures (pointing to self or pointing to her) emphasize the "who" in a someone sentence. "Someone", "him", "her", "this guy" are all vague words that need a reference. You give them that reference with those subtle gestures.

5."Dude, I'm glad you showed up". Use "man" or whatever works for you. This is a pattern interrupt. Some guy that he doesn't know just said he's glad he showed up. His mind is going to spend the next second jogging his memory just to *be 150% positive* that he doesn't know you. This one is very effective and it helps you keep control of the frame. It also establishes a little rapport because, hey, we all like being told we're needed.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 12:51 am 
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Thanks man, Im definitely going to try this out and read a bit more into this NLP stuff. I won't use it on women, but I would like to know when people try it out on me and when people look like they will cause massive conflict.
Much appreciated, :D

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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 12:11 pm 
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Man, I am really fascinated by this NLP stuff but I just can't see myself sitting down and practicing all these canned lines. Like paragraphs and paragraphs of shit, complete with gestures and emphasis... I was never even a fan of routines!

Still though, I want to learn because I've seen how effective this is.

Are there any shorter, more natural ways to do stuff like this. Sorry I might kind of be hijacking this thread, but even a link to something would be appreciated.


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