I've decided to follow the path of In10se and study psychology, NLP, and touch up on Speed Seduction. So I downloaded a tremendous amount of books by RJ, IN10se, DVD seminars with Hynotica, Lair Seminars and I have no idea where to start.


Should I understand a basic grasp of NLP in application to everything before going into the understanding and application of it to women?

What books should I get started on first?

Alot of RJ's stuff seems to have big claims and alot of his "ways of meeting girls" completely contradicts Mystery Method's "doing the opposite of what guys do to the HB's", RJ flatters them and charms them using compliments and tells them how gorgeous they are. And that definately contradicts what I believe as well.

Being a very satisfied client of RJ, I have to tell you in response to It doesn't matter, learning to do it on women is just another way of learning to do it. There comes a stage in using NLP that you are so familiar with what you are doing that you can improvise patterns about anything. At first you learn it by saying word for word the patterns, and it feels unnatural and stupid. This is to be expected, it only feels unnatural now because it is not a habit yet.

Mystery has his own style, Ross relies on NLP. I have a fair knowledge in Mystery's methods but Ross's techniques I personally find to be my favourite. I don't know where you got that you NEED to flatter women, if you wanted to you could, but it's completely unneeded step. A true disciple in Ross's methods can seduce women by talking about anything, in fact I never pay compliments to women in my patterns.

First off, you should not be "downloading" books. The authors put a lot of time and effort into the compilation of these books, and you reading them without paying for them is not only ILLEGAL, Immoral, but also against forum rules (if it isn't, it should be).

That aside...

The first thing you should learn is the basics of PUA. There are many paths you can follow, however, I recommend reading as much as possible untill you find one that suits you.

Once you've done that, and got a grasp on that, you should begin practicing your newly learned skills.

Then, while continuing to practice your PUA skills, you should begin to learn about NLP, if you so choose. Before trying to apply NLP to women and seduction, it is definitely to your benefit to learn as much as possible about the history of NLP, its applications, and uses. Then, if you feel the need to, you can begin transitioning that information to women and seduction with a much higher success rate.



It's true Ross tends to flatter women, but the only reason it works is because of the NLP that he is using. An understanding of NLP would help you understand this, and also help you understand that its not necessary to his method.

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