Hello, it`s my first post here,so my name is Ivan and i am 17 years old. I am learning speed seduction seriously for several months. I start to use them, but having some problems.
Here is the story with 7-8 dark blond hair girl. I meet her in the internet on some social network site, i`ve made some cheap tricks to get her phone number, get a date etc.
First date was going good, but i start run patterns and use vague language after 1(!) hour of talking to her. When i start massaging her neck she started to relax and become more hypnotible and aroused, but start talking with me about some choirs and different shit. I told her that i respect our time, but if she will not stop thinking about it and not start paying full attention to company with me she will be better to get off. And then i start talking more lower with less volume and talking about connection. We hang out for 2 hours and it was good time for me. (Even if i know that i don`t escalated as much as need it).
On the second date we were talking for 0.5 hour about her schoolmates all that crap and i told her that she must relax and forget all this shit and think about feeling with me. I ask her about where and what color she has experience crush on guy and start working with my hand like Ross Jeffries told in Speed Seduction 2.0 about feelings in 1-10 scale etc. ( I really think that she was feeling all that for real, but i was feeling sick, my troaht start drying and heart were pounding like crazy.) Then we went to more privately location and i start talking about rollecoasters (pattern). So she start taking my hand and start dancing around it . I took her closer to me and were start hugging or something like dancing and than she called me not by my name and it freaked out me ! She told me that she felling now the same feelings that they with he is, but added that he was an asshole and that i am not. So i start rub her lower back, take my hands to her ass etc. Take her by the neck with my right hand and start slowly taking her to kiss. Than she start kissing and sucking my lips like crazy. I were freaked out. Then she asked me that i must take her to her place, but i sad NO because i knew that her house are not free and i have some work to do. So she called me a whore or something like that (i don`t know right translation for it) . I were so happy. I were so glad that i could use Ross`s stuffs and they worked. But then she stop answer my telephone calls. After a few days she wrote me that i am good guy, but i am not that guy that could be her boyfriend.
And what does it mean? At least i am know that This stuffs work Maybe she doesn`t even have such strong emotional experience before me or i don`t know. Or i fucked up somwhere patterns or just burn-out her. She is 16-17 and tall almost as i so i don`t think that she doesn`t experience and orgasm or something like that, but maybe she just cold.

Why try and force it? You've got the girl. Shut up and kiss her. SHE will bring up connections and relationships THEN run the patterns naturally. You're trying advanced stuff when you are a beginner. Slow down and enjoy the moment. Use nlp on YOURSELF first.

Ok, we`ll see. I use nlp on my self for at least 5-6 years. And must say - it`s one of the best times i have in my life! I`ve got new goals and made some great decisions wich affect my today life.

So, i some how managed to fucked up all this. She told me that i am good guy, blah, blah,blah.... not so that she is looking as her boyfriend. So it`s clear, but i don`t understand why she called me by name of her old boyfriend and tell me that that all this not right and all this crap? It`s really interesting to me.

Try some of the other aspects of pu. NLP is a tool, not a means to an end.

I think i will stick with Hypno stuffs. I like patterns and hypno seduction that this is more fun for me, if i will do cocky and funny i will look like a fool. SS stuffs work better for me because i am trying to look like typical rock star with long hair and jewelerry on middle finger and watch on the right hand ( i am professional guitar player and musican) so i made for me something like very fascinating avatar for me, mysterious or something. I also saw new video of Major Mark Cunningham on renegadehypnotist ( or something like that) and it was freaking amazing, i literally did it by myself on girl with whom i`ve dated for a while like AFC, and i made her cum!! And she gave me a blowjob! I`ve kissed her just one time and we were knew each other for two weeks!
And it was just great experience for me as well. When i did that thing i found that i have strong connection with her, and filled my self re-enegized and start writing some cool lyrics after. I am also doing some patterns on my self to make music on that experiences, it`s great. I am so happy!

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