Hi,

since there was a lot written about sexual framing, I would like to get an idea about relationship framing that means “pushing” for a relationship.

What are the differences in framing?
What qualifying questions and cold reads do you use?
What are the characteristics you screen for?

e.g.:
- Is she the jealous type?
- Is she drama free?

Thanks for your help.

juicy

Actually, it's kind of easy. At one point of your conversation, you will get to a point where you mention what are you two looking for. If you're looking for sex, you will say something like "I'm not looking for anything serious at the moment, just having fun". If you want a relationship, you will say "I need a quality girl in my life who is up to a real thing. All these empty whores are starting to make me tired"

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Thank you for your answer. I rather meant things like in the post "How to use framing". Sorry, can't c&p links. I'm under 5 posts.

and qualifiers like this:
What’s the nicest thing you’ve done for a guy?

if you are just looking to just get laid use strong attraction triggering and sexual framing

if you want her as a girlfriend, use strong attraction, dont get too sexual, and work a decent amount of comfort and rapport.

to be fair, unless you have some moral convictions you are trying to adhere to, you are still better off fucking her as soon as possible then building comfort and rapport

thank you, no morals just interest.

i know there are whole programs (sinn) about this but i don't know their content. sinns metaframes for this sounded cool.
so maybe it's spoosible to share some opinions on this.

thanks

He's probably aiming at changing the frame like used with nlp-patterns.

for instance when a girl is talking to you and says I am not attracted to you.
The belief is then: I am not attracted to you.

your answer should be in this case: have you ever considered how you can become attracted to the believe that you can choose exactly whom you're feeling things for.

OK I know this is not a sex frame but another; I didn't know there was such thing; I assume it is possible but with reframing you shoud stick close to the patterns else I wouldn't know why reframing was created.

in my opinion, sexual framing will be needed for both, as for both a girlfriend and a hookup your end game will result in sex, if you are screening for an SNL, obviously your frame will be more straight forward and sexual because you have a timeline to reach and not being more sexual with your frame will more likely result in a waste of time instead of a one night stand (some girls will sleep with you, just not that night, so they have to be screened out)

getting a relationship is more about investment as well as how you manage your expectations, so for example, back to screening for a one night stand, you expect nothing less then getting laid that night, so you have to escalate and screen in a way that suggests this, there for the frame is more fuck me or fuck off, where as there is no timeline on a long term relationship, you can play it more patiently if need be, the difference between having a FB and a LTR is almost as easy as spending more then 2 days a week with the girl after she has slept with you so she is more invested in you, and saying yes when she asks if you will be her boyfriend, and the difference between a one nighter and a FB is you call her back and continue seeing her after sex, sex leads to all avenues, it is the amount you allow her to invest, as well as how you manage what you are expecting that will effect how it turns out, not the framing around interaction to being with where LTR's are concerned (framing is more important when a cold approach SNL is your goal, some girls will not be up for sex too fast, while others will be fine with it, in this way you have to screen for the SNL, but sex leads to a long term relationship, the more value she sees from you, the more she will want to invest, the more she wants to invest, the more power you have to dictate what you expect and have her fall in line)

either way, the frame will get you what you want, if you act in a way that you perceive a boyfriend should act towards a girlfriend, then your ideal girlfriends will emerge through your screening process and react to your frame, if you act like you want a one night stand, then you will attract the ideal candidates for a one night stand, this isn't really about ''getting girls to want to be your girlfriend'' but rather, dismissing girls that are not the right material for it sooner rather then later to find the proper girls, the way you frame it will effect who screens and who doesn't, the frame and the way you screen does not somehow magically make girls fall into that frame if they are not interested in the position, at some point when sex is involved, you will have to turn the frame sexual to escalate, you will never trick a girl into sleeping with you, the only exception is when she has made up her mind long before anything has been done that she will sleep with you regardless of what you say or do, but when you have a timeline you have to introduce sexual frames earlier so you can see how she screens (if she won't fall into a sexual frame early in the interaction, she won't have sex with you early into the night, easy as that)

if you wrote this post because you have a fear of escalation, the framing won't help you, learning to escalate will, if you want a girlfriend or a fb or a one night stand, doesn't matter, it will remain constant that compliance must be built, and a sexual frame must be set at some point so that sex can happen, there is no way around this if that is what you were hoping for

GOOD LUCK

For me the sex frame is totally new. Who developed it? Is there a book about it for instance?

Back to the opening post where juicy15 asks for qualifying questions to put the mind in a sex frame.
OK the last question is more or less answered in pumpingtons post but that leaves 2 more open.

How is the sex frame totally new to you? What kind of frame do you think there is in the interaction when two people are, or are about to have sex? What do you mean who developed it? It's biology. If you want sex, the frame has to become sexual at one point. Is there a book? Well yes, I guess most books on pick-up talk about the seduction phase.

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