Hello big man

Yes, it will work if it is set up correctly. There are a number of ways to do this but I would recommend purchasing an NLP-book to teach you the correct manner. I met an NLP trainer once who had an anchor on every finger of her right hand!

Without the proper technique though, it's unlikely to work. There are a couple of videos on youtube of Ross Jeffries getting rid of approach anxiety for his students, but he uses no NLP; only the psychological technique of 'flooding' otherwise known as 'implosion'. Say you were afraid of spiders, this basically would involve putting large spiders on the victim/in close proximity to the patient to terrify them to the maximum extent over a prolonged period of time. After a while, the patient cannot maintain their fear-response (you can't scream forever, for instance) so they just become accustomed to the stimulus and feel fine. This method in psychology has some of the strongest results, but obviously there are ethical considerations.

Anyway, psychology tangent aside, I would strongly recommend buying a basic NLP hand-guide type book as they have a variety of tools - not just anchors - for dealing with a problem such as AA.

The other thing you could do, which is something I have done - is actually to notice anchors you ALREADY HAVE rooted in you. One day before a boxing match a friend of mine pointed out that I always punch my fist into my other hand. Then I caught myself doing it before climbing major ascents. It was then that I realised that I had been doing this for many years just before events that I was somewhat nervous about - I already had an anchor for G-ing myself up. So I could use this in future consciously. Another way to use this trick is to just use an anchor you may already have for a very comfortable situation, such as chilling with your best mate. Assume the body posture and tone of voice that you would usually have with him/her, and imagine having a relaxed, pointless and happy conversation...

Even so.

On balance, I think there are better methods for treating AA/tackling the root causes of AA, but now I am venturing into the realms of opinion, so I will stop there.

Aside from NLP, I personally would recommend the following things:

-Start small; just ask where the train station is, easy questions like that. Nothing more. Often you may set yourself too tall expectations which can cause AA. Built it up. This also follows the paradigm of 'systematic desensitization'; another phobia cure in mainstream psychology.

-Get blown out in many different ways. Approach to get blown out. If you allow yourself and consciously try to get blown out, you will become accustomed to the worse case scenario, and so when you try to sarge for real you will not fear it. We fear the unknown, but being blown out to you will no longer be 'unknown'. Furthermore, you will realise that it's not so bad after all, and you rarely get slapped! (I've never been slapped). It's also a good lesson in teaching someone how to go direct and how far one can really escalate things - but I digress.

Hope this helps buddy x.

Yea.. I got a book about NLP even more I got some seminar tapes about anchoring. Some days ago I even tried to anchor a feeling of happiness in 2 friends of mine - and in the first case I even couldn't make her amplify the feeling not to mention that after I touched on her wrist and set the anchor and then changed her state to neutral and fired off the anchor nothing happened. And in the second case I managed to amplify the happy feeling in my friend - by bringing the picture closed, making the image larger, adding some sound, and more color, feeling the temperature etc. but after I anchored him with a touch on the shoulder and then after a piss pause I tried to fire off the anchor nothing happened once again. I even have no success in acnhoring myself. Somehow I find it more difficult for me to recall feelings when I try to self-anchor. But even when I recall them and set the anchor I got almost no result. But whatever I know that I'm doing something wrong and I won't stop until I make it right.

By the I've read somewhere else about starting small with neutral questions when approaching, and the 'approach to get blown out' tactic' but I didn't used that stuff until now and I want to thank you for that. It really helped and my approaches were with no AA at all. I appreciate that and you got my respect.

This is a question that I hear asked a lot Rafiel, but I would like to hear your opinion on it ( have read through the thread and haven't found it being asked in here). If you had a student and they could genuinely only read one book on NLP, what book would you recommend and why?

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The Enforcer.

The game is easy to start, the referee blows the whistle. It's where you go from there that matters.

What is the pattern used in order to make someone think red is green or stuff like that .
~Peace

Thanks for your question, Enforcer, and thanks for checking out the thread first. It depends on a few things - particularly what their current level/understanding of NLP is, and whether they are using it for game or other things.

Assuming it is for a beginner, I would personally recommend:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Introducing-Neu ... gy_b_img_b

Although everyone who claims to know anything about NLP should have read From frogs to princes by the godfathers themselves.

Why I recommended the first is that it's just a sound introduction to NLP; it covers the main and periphery principles well and to a good level of detail with a pleasant style of prose, and a practical approach.

I haven't read many books in recent years regarding NLP though, so there may well be some new releases (in fact I know there are) which I haven't taken into account. I read extensively when I started but not so much after; for my purposes, practice in field (whether it be for magic, sales or game) was and still is dramatically more important. For this reason I can't say my opinion on this matter is the best one . Best of luck in your endeavours.

I guess you saw Derren Brown do this?

There are many methods. But the method he used in that particularly viewed feat was based on the swish pattern. He uses that pattern a lot and the practice and application of NLP uses it a lot. Simply because...it's a great pattern!

is it possible to have multiple goals at a time.
i read something in psycho cybernetics that mind can concentrate on only one goal at a time,
so say

i have a goal with my studies, realations, health, etc
in different areas,

so how do i set goals for them, if its possible!!
thanks!

Hello big man,

I think this question is too broad and vague for me to answer - and would involve me getting very subjective, not something that I like to do often. If you could narrow the question down, and make it more specific to NLP/seduction, that'd be great. Otherwise there are other NLP forums on the internet.

I would however, agree with you; it is better, in the short-term, to concentrate on one thing at a time, but this is just my opinion. In the long-term you may have as many goals as you like.

I get the SAME problem and i think its part of our genetic make up as males. Since i started doing pick up , my previous passion of music pretty much disappeared and i stopped practising / writing.
I work in music business now and i still cant seperate the two. If im passionate about my sarging, its literally all i think about, and my business suffers, and vice versa.

Hey Raf, would you answer a PM if I was to send you one. I could really use some advice in your areas of expetise but I really don't want to discuss it in a public forum.

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The Enforcer.

The game is easy to start, the referee blows the whistle. It's where you go from there that matters.

Hey Gamble

One more topic that I wanted to ask you:

How would your recommend going about developing and using some really strong self-anchors?

Would you recommend restraint or exccess (or perhaps balance) while developing self-anchors?

What self-anchors would you recommend developing ?

I would still like to talk to you by PM about some other things - nothing shady just don't want to reveal too much about myself on the forum.

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The Enforcer.

The game is easy to start, the referee blows the whistle. It's where you go from there that matters.

Hope full I'll get an answer in time, I have a grile that is coming over this afternoon like in 2,3 hours tops, and I would like to use a nlp technique or two, because I'm a relaly big fan of yours, I know very much your stealth seduction disc 2 and sort of addapted it to suit my stile, I don;t like to use out of the can techinques, couse they tend to not be me, yet your disc 2 resembles waht I would normally do, I'd like to know a few mor specific techinques that require a little more experience, sort of a game if you lie to put it that way.

Another question, is it a basic form of october man what ross jeffries does to that waitress? used that once and didn't like what happened to the girl and never used it again (i'll elaborate if ou wish)

Thanx in advance.

Hey Enforcer,

sorry for the massively late reply. With regards to self-anchors, I would recommend fleshing out maybe £10-£15 more a paperback NLP book. "An Introduction to NLP" by Joseph O'connor (I think that's what it's called) is a good one. I would just be repeating what a book like that would say in a much more succinct and comprehensive manner.

As far as what self anchors I would recommend developing, common ones which are great are, for example, one for confidence. So you could fire this off before you approach a girl to combat AA for instance. It just depends what you need. Identify your issues, then develop a self-anchor to solve them.

Let me know if you want to know more because there's so much to say but I don't want to write an essay if you get me . Take care buddy.

Hello buddy

Sorry to say I'm not Richard La Ruina or whatever his name is. You're not the first to confuse me for him though - my friends know me as 'Gamble' hence the name, but my first name is Rafiel.

With regards to the OMS thing about Ross Jeffries, I think you mean the example given in the book 'the game'? Well, that's not October Man, that's just a sliding anchor really. I think we're not supposed to talk about OMS here but in short it involves more symbol manipulation.

I haven't seen Richard's CDs (and don't intend to) so if you'd like me to answer some questions about them you'd have to spell it out buddy x

ok sorry for the confuison, stealth seduction disc 2 is basically a way to escalate using basic kino, touching and doing things that build up attraction, all good I really like it and use that often, I am looking for some sort of nlp pattern that could improve the stealth kino escalation involved in the intraction.

Hope it is enugh, to understand, I'd like to link the 2 together and when like playing with my hand on her back make a feeling such as anxiety apear.