buddy you sound very very good in setting frames.

any more insights on the subject? :>

xD

haha thx, I'm not that great, I just have experience with them. But if you got questions, fire away.


btw, if you understand the concept, you can also set different frames if you're looking for a girlfriend instead of quick lays, for example: frames of being trustworthy, honest, respectful, etc. I like to set these frames as well.

Frames are always being set, whether we're aware of them or not. But now that you know how they're set, you can even set them to repel girls you're not interested in.... if you wanted to.

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statements that are making you the victim of her sexuality is also very good:

"you should really stop doing that [like playing with her hair or anything else] its turning me on"

if your dancing with her or sth you could say:

"oh my god stop dancing like this, i'm trying to be a good boy tonight, but if you keep on being like this i cant guarantee for anything anymore"

if you know some more let me know : )

edit: i think its awesome if you whisper that in her ear. what do you think?

Don't really have experience with this to be honest. Though it sounds good in theory, woman get turned on when they can make men horny. (And get turned off when they can't control it lol, so be careful). That's why your line is pretty good: "I'm TRYING to be a good boy, but you're making me go insane, stop it."

Gonna start trying this stuff, and see how it goes. Something like: "You should really stop doing 'x', it's totally turning me on. Stop it! I'm trying to be good tonight "

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hmmm i think im not doing it right with the badgirl frame....

90% i get "nooooo i'm a good girl really!!" thats not the answer i want...
why could that be?


offtopic @ coldman what do you think how often a week should you go out club gaming if you want to improve consistantly? 2 times is obviously not enough...for me

No, you're doing it right haha, that's a normal response, I get it a lot too. After you get that response whisper to her: "You might have everyone else fooled, but, its alright, you can't hide it. Don't worry, it stays between us " (Show discretion)
Or something along those lines. You could even say: "shhh, nono, I know, don't worry, I won't tell anyone "

As long as you show discretion, it's fine.

She might not be willing to tell EVERYONE, so when you whisper this to her, she'll feel that it's alright to just let YOU know. (Or you don't need to necessarily whisper it, just make sure no one is around to hear it, so it depends on the environment.)

When she laughs when you say that, you say: "I knew it... laughter of recognition. "


Offtopic: The more you practice, the better you get at this. (Assuming you can identify/analyze sticking points and fix them)

We all grow at our own pace. I went out like once a week, which is not enough haha, so it took me a long time. Granted when I DID go out, I tried all kinds of crazy stuff and I would barely have nights where I didn't talk to anybody. I would go at it hard. And then when I got home I would analyze what I did right, what I did wrong, what could've gone better, what I should do better next time, etc

And always had individual goals, like: "Tonight I'm gonna set 3 sexual frames."
or "Tonight I'm gonna TRY and move 3 girls around" (Notice I said TRY, as you can never predict whether you succeed or not)

Never have goals like: "Tonight I'm gonna pull a girl home." Because you can't guarantee that. A better goal would be: "Tonight, I'm gonna ATTEMPT to pull a girl home."

My criteria for success was whether or not I did what I set out to do. I would be contempt and happy with myself if I did my goals.

But never forget the end-goal, which is to get pussy. So always be trying to pull.


But yes, if I went out like 3-4 times a week I would've improved WAY faster. It all depends on how much time you want to put in this. Granted I had times where I went out 3 times a week, and times where I didn't go out at all.


The important thing is not whether you go out 7 times a week, but whether you maximize your time when you DO go out. Minimize the nights where you don't talk to anyone. And always be pushing interactions, never leave because you run out of stuff to say and it gets awkward, enjoy that awkwardness. The only 3 reasons you leave an interaction is when: She tells you to fuck off, she leaves, or the building is on fire. Nothing else.

"She's not smiling", tough, keep going, she might come around.
"I run out of stuff to say", tough, stay in there, maybe you'll think of something, maybe she fills in the silence (which usually is the case if you wait long enough). Eye contact with silence is golden anyway, it builds sexual tension.

Gonna quit typing, cause I'm rambling again haha


Hope this answers your question

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thank you very much for the help : )

yes i think showing discretion afterwards will help me alot!


i guess my biggest sticking point is, i eject way too often.
when she doesn't respond perfectly i get a bad feeling^^
your absolutely right with saying, always be pushing...though it's kind of hard...
need to work on this

thank you