Ok Lets talk NLP one more time

The last reviews I read on them,

They work, simply they do, I hate to admit it, but all those creepy words mixed up with a sexual voice tone actually make women's minds run wild... provoking them to picture what she's being told... not that she will act on it... but at least it will get her mind into a sexual state... which is of course pretty good to make your moves

Now, I have read/heard that NLP works, and at the same time it's the method that most people quit, they either get tired of it, bored, the morals get to them and so on, i have read all that
but I have never heard it doesn't work,

Now the fact that NLP works doesn't mean that it's the only method you should use (read above, duh!) There is better ways, or at least I think so, and so do some great PUA's here, and outside

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NLP generally has a high rate of success on people of lower intelligence. It DOES NOT work on someone who is aware of what NLP is or someone who is generally considered a person of higher intelligence.

Thats a fact.

For those that feel the need to rely on it to get women, don't worry, that bar-skank with the 14 IQ your trying it on will definitely fall for it.

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I've always thought that intelligence thing to be true also, but I didn't really have much to base it on...

okay, here's what i did today to get a BJ. i met this girl on an online phone app at 9am this morning. i'm gonna do my whole text convo in the lay report forum thingy. but i never met her in my life and got her to agree to let me come to her place during my lunch break. but here's how i got her to give me a BJ

basically i ran different parts of Evolution Phase Shift (style), the hair pulling, sucking, biting. so then i said, "u know what i really like? kiss my belly button."

my shirt was off by this point. as she did that, i moved her hands to grope my jimmy and loosend the belt and pulled him out. and she was doing LMR about waiting for next time...i told her to give me a sneak preview

got head.

u know what's funny? i hate not wearing underwear. i get a perpetual boner. this morning i did all my laundry...guess hat? i forgot to leave a pair of underwear out to wear. so i was free-balling today. and guess what, it made getting her to give me head so much easier. no hastling with underwear. am i on to something??

haha....hope this helps.

(after 6.5 years in a serious but doomed relationship...it feels good to be free again!!!!)

EDIT: btw, she was only an HB6.5, so nothing to write home about. but i'm so fresh into the game that i'll take a four hour online pick-up, lunchtime BJ anyday of the week.

EDIT EDIT: the reason how i came across this thread was bc i was wondering if there is a name for BJ-close. is it BJ-close?

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have u ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight?

i do to different things.

1. i go down on her. most of the time she does the same with me.

2. i just tell her i want her lips around my dick.

All that stuff is totally creepy and any girl worth seeing in the daylight would see right through it.

I want to comment on NLP here.

NLP is neurolinguistic programming.

This is usually paraphrased in this community as (I'll give the nod to Ross Jeffries, but even if I'm wrong, whatever, I don't give a shit) "embedded commands". Essentially, you're "weaving" commands into your words to "sugar coat" them and make them less "shock and awe" seeming. It's an attempt to add "comfort".

Personally, after experimenting, while I'm not going to claim that NLP does NOT work, it's still indirect and I've had plenty of good results by simply just giving women commands and being upfront about what I want. Not "long term" what do I want, but "short term" what do I want.

"Comere"

"Put your hand here" (grab her hand and put it where you want it)

"Turn around"

etc.

For many men, especially insecure ones and newbs/AFC's, this isn't comfortable, it takes practice, so I think NLP has a place, to an extent, in getting men comfortable with themselves. However, once you become comfortable with giving commands, it's way easier to just skip the indirect method of hiding the commands in shrouded language ("safe" from rejection) and just give the commands.

It's more honest and as long as you don't have any fear of rejection or an ego that is going to cry and act like a 3 yr old who didn't get his toy if she doesn't comply, then you just let rejection bounce off you and continue "leading" her.

You think "Bad Boys" are saying "Hi <random girl>. What is your favorite food? Oh. Avacado? Great. Well can you [i]imagine[/i] for a second what it would be like to eat that avacado? Now can you imagine that my penis is an avacado? Now will you imagine you are blowing me and enjoying it?

That's asking her for permission, it's too indirect and personally, it sounds like something a woman would say because she's scared to be direct about what her true intentions are.

If it's a chick you're already intimate with, Man up, start kissing her, Say, "Goddamn your lips feel good", back up and say, "Kiss me here" and if she's excited enough she'll likely do it. If she don't, don't act like a 1 year old that dropped his bottle on the floor and throw a temper tantrum and DON'T act all hurt and insulted.

You tried, she didn't bite {figuratively} you can try again some other time, but be a man and tell her what YOU WANT. Do you WANT her to suck your cock? Then tell her to and deal with whatever she says or does.

Who needs game, MM, NLP, social dynamics when you got meth?! Hmmm...

I was the same as you until I I conversationally hypnotised a woman and made her orgasm just by touching her neck, and full body lutiple orgasm as we had sex and then I touched her neck with my palm and rubbed it was a mess but a very exiting experience for her and me, this stuff can be very powerful I have never seen a woman lust for me so much then after I had done that on here before it was crazy, if you do want to learn some of this stuff igor ledochowski is very good his conversational hypnosis mastery and mind bending language im working on a techneique to add them together with ross Jeffries speed seduction in a way only it will be my own style and it is a lot faster and more powerful then normal conversational hypnosis, mind bending language is very advanced, check it out