Hello,

first time poster, getting to grasps with NLP

Heres the Situation:

young man eater in my area, gorgeous girl and a natural man eater. seriously, i've seen this girl hit down guys like an animal with no remorse.

she is morbidly obsessed with some dude who is giving her the run around. so to me this seems like a direct NLP opportunity.

the target in question is early 20s. met her in a bar. all went well, used various techniques on her, but when punishing her for talking to some other guys she got away after a # close, had the kiss close in sight but it never materialized.

been in touch with her since, but she is playing push pull. she loves attention but keeps going back to "Lover boy".

so i devised a plan to hit two birds with one stone. the guy is a natural, so he keeps playing push pull with her and getting her addicted to the drama. i've seen him in action and he is in the child-to-adult phase, but somehow has her full attention (seriously)

i begin by destroying his tactics, basically i burnt his cards under the disguise that i'm helping her get him. she is playing along given he is the only guy she cant fully get and needs the help.

step two, i'm convincing her that i can teach her techniques to get her dream guy. when she asks what i have to win in this, the simple reply is i want to see her happy.

what is left now is to hit her with a head shot NLP pattern to both destroy the guys image and replace it with mine. so here i am, asking, graciously, for help.

i've done a brief stint of research and was thinking of modifying the "rose pattern" technique to serve my needs, i'm not trying to get the girl to obsessively fall for me, i just need to prove to myself the strength of NLP, so i intend no permanent damage.

Rose Pattern technique: I cannot post URL, but it is under "The Rose Pattern" in teh NLP Threads

the way i see it i have the upper hand (somewhat);

- the guy's card's are burnt, he may be a natural, but out of his game, he has no clue. (this is in Latin america, so everyone here is suave and a bloody lover)

- the girl has trust in me, she is continuously asking for my advice to get this magical jackass

- by convincing her that i could help her, i have the upper hand in making sure that whatever technique i use she will comply with fully under the pretence that her success with the guy depends fully on her cooperation with my teachings

so in short, the playing field is ripe for the modified technique, even though i have burnt some of my own cards, i still MAY have the ace of spades if NLP is really what it is said to be.

i think i have 1 shot before my game is up, so i have to have it perfect. i know i've set the bar way to high for myself, but to be honest, i see no other way of learning than to push to the limits.

so please, to the NLP GURUs, any advice would be appreciated.

Cheers,

Seems straight forward to me.

Anchor whatever feelings she has for him to you as a start (dangerous). Or just disconnect them from the other guy (safer if you just want the sex).

Then refine as time goes on. You already know emotionally where she is connected.

That's how I would do it. I'd get her full attention, then decide where I was going with it.

You already have the personality reconnaissance pretty much done. Seems to me you should be able to put her in any state you want.

A custom pattern would work best based on what you know about her personality. If I were to do it, and just wanted to nail her, I might do something like this:

1. Create the desired emotional state.

2. Amplify it. Manipulate it. Define it's plasticity and your power over it.

3. Make her name it. (She's fully participating in the process)

4. Make her own it. (Removes critical factors because SHE owned it)

5. Anchor it to you (dangerous!!). Or, and this can be fun and safer, unanchor it from the other guy and leave it dangling to see what it does.

Second phase:

At this point you have her attention. If you are just looking for sex, run a stock sex pattern that fits your natural game and nail her.

Note:

I tend to run patterns a bit differently than some of the people who teach this stuff. The reasons have to do with fitting the pattern to my personal frame and a difference in belief system. My personal frame dictates that emotions or physical feelings are equally useful in running patterns. What you choose depends on your goals and the target. Someone who is not very kinesthetic may not be suitable to stock passion patterns.

But I think the greater challenge is for people who want to do this to learn how to build things on their own... not parrot a pattern which can result in unpredictable results depending on the frame from which the pattern originates from.

So I'd recommend finding principles in NLP that make sense to you, and constructing your own patterns- and customizing on the fly depending on the target.

Hey Spooge,

thank you for the reply. i'm doing some homework on the topic, and will get back shortly with the reply.

i'm still priming the subject in question to maximize the effect of the technique to be used.

i'm quite excited to use this and see the effects.

Cheers,