Just to see how many guys here in the forum are having success with SS, post here if you are.

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"Their compliance is,
'Does she grab your hand?' F*ck you! I want to grab her mind. If I can
grab her mind, she'll be grabbing whatever I want, any way I want her to." - Ross Jeffries

SS = Lame

Yes it can work after years of practise but u can only do it in certain places.

There is a video on here of a guy doing SS to a girl who tells him after two minutes that she likes strip clubs. And he plows into another SS routine. She was READY to be pulled.

I am sure elements of SS are good but you are basing your whole game on Ross Jeffries, who is a wierdo.

Well, your post doesn't quite make sense.

"There is a video on here of a guy doing SS to a girl who tells him after two minutes that she likes strip clubs. And he plows into another SS routine. She was READY to be pulled."

A guy using SS wrong doesn't define that SS sucks.

Even Ross said in one of his seminars, "If you're in the middle of a pattern and the girl is all wet and hot fuck the rest of the pattern...".

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"Their compliance is,
'Does she grab your hand?' F*ck you! I want to grab her mind. If I can
grab her mind, she'll be grabbing whatever I want, any way I want her to." - Ross Jeffries

I am not saying that SS sucks, it can work, if you spend years becoming an expert using it. But do you really want to be the creepy guy going over patterns to get women to sleep with you.
I use bits of NLP in sexual comfort and there are bits of his stuff i like, although Ross's openers SUCK.
I am just saying, do not base your whole game on it, the same as if you base your game on MM, it will not be congruent and wont work.

Lets see ...

I had three different girls on Saturday ... does that count ?

I always use SS and NLP techniques .. (which did take me years to learn).

Is that all you wanted to know ?

Have Fun
MK

Could you please get a hidden mic so I can hear how its done?? Or better yet get one of those spy pens that I use. RJ said he wouldn't do it.

In my opinion, SS isn't creepy..in fact, its fun as hell.

I'm having quite good success with SS too.
I have lots of fun doing it and it's good for me because I mostly do day game, so it's easy to have quite places.

I also got it work online through MSN.

I agree it's a bit hard to master it, but it's really powerful and worth it. I want to use it not only in getting women, but also jobs, etc.

BTW... If you guys haven't watched it yet, I recommend you to watch Mehow's infield insider featuring Hypnotica. He's so awesome with NLP.

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"Their compliance is,
'Does she grab your hand?' F*ck you! I want to grab her mind. If I can
grab her mind, she'll be grabbing whatever I want, any way I want her to." - Ross Jeffries

There is a gulf between good knowledge and good application of knowledge when it comes to NLP and its related disciplines.

I understand what your asking but that wont work. You can listen to it all day long and not get how it works because if it is done correctly it will work on you .. but you will not be able to tell how.

The best thing to do is to start working on NLP exercises where you isolate one or two factors and then as you gain skill with them you add more to it. That way you can track your progress and know how each part really works.

If you were to memorize say ... the incredible connection pattern (CR: Ross) then you might be able to make it work but you would not be practicing NLP .. you would be reciting a pattern.


Another thing that is being misunderstood by nearly everyone is that some patterns are not for other people ... they are for teaching yourself. Dr. Erickson had many that he used on himself that only later were adapted to his therapy and these types of patterns are very useful in rebuilding your own personality so that you can be entertaining when you want ... or a super fast learner when that suits you.


Make Sense ?
MK

I love SS, but patterns without knowledge of the structure and mechanics , won't work.

I disagree ... here is why !


We all use patterns event tough we dont know it. THe whole reason that patterns work is because ... well .. because they work. Our minds operate in patterns that the ones that people come up with and publish are actually stories that FOLLOW a pattern. The pattern is not the words that are said .. they are the pattern that the words (and body language and tonality and gestures and symbols) follow.

You could actually do and say everything in patterns and no one would know what your doing because they would say "oh him ... he's weird ... but a true natural with the ladies" .. why do they say that ? I dont really know but I would venture to say that "sour grapes" has a part in labelling NLP and patterns as things that dont work because someone tried them once and nothing happened so that means they dont work.


But I can and do make them work ... and I know that everyone uses patterns ... are they good patterns ? Not usually ... and the ones that are good are delivered like it was a Disney promo ...

and the absolute worst perception is that one could toss out a couple patterns like they were hundred dollar bills and the bitch drops to her knees and starts sucking ...

Aint gonna happen boys ...

Pattern are a way to illicit states. Both psychological and physiological. and once in that state the woman will have a perception of you which is normal for when she is in that state.

IF you pattern her for fear ... she will not be inclined to have sex ... I think that is pretty easy to figure out ... and reciting a pattern but not knowing how to Identify her state is also not going to get you laid ... You really need to have some experience with states , frames , physiology , psychology , anatomy and a big heap of language skills to master the art.

But once you do ... you will have more pussy than you even want .. just like me !!


Most guys say ... I want that girl to be my girlfriend ... but I say

"I am going out to meet ten more women .. and I am going to fuck some of them too !!" .. because thats my pattern of behavior !!

Have Fun
MK