This was the 1st school of pick up I started in, thinking I would gain some jedi mind powers. That didn’t work that way, so I moved on to canned material and have tried everything in between, and eventually settled in natural game the more I saw it was the subcommunications that mattered.

I’ve got my subcommunications really dialed at this point & I find myself back to many NLP principles because things I am doing unknowingly & unplanned at the time and in a natural way. When I anylise it I see it is pretty much NLP. I routinely have entire conversations with women and know that what we are talking about is entirely another subject & you naturally can move things the direction you want.

Things coming full circle. Basically you are going to have to become a cool guy and aware of this sort of thing before it starts working. You try a lot of it early without the knowledge I think you risk coming off creepy. I still don't think I could pull off a blowjob pattern or something but I see progress.

I really buy into the "whatever you feel, she feels principle" You can just look at a girl and say everything that needs to be said. Almost telepathic. Once you progress in this language I think you differentiate yourself from most guys.

I see what you mean.
I too, like two days ago started to read about speed seduction and NLP, and thought "Wow! This is like Jedi mind control! I gotta learn this stuff!". But then the more I read, the more condused I got. How do I apply these things? How do I use the patterns without seeming obsessed on feelings and relationships? Yu know, my friends and other people might start thinking "This guy only talks about falling in love or meeting someone special, or having these really deep feeings".
But I kinda am starting to feel I should just start to try and notice where do we insert those elements (embedded commands, suggestions, etc) on our normal conversations, and try to manipulate them. It might take a lot of time before I can really start applying those purposely....
I am really confused about this SS stuff. The more I read, the more lost I get...
I may as well give it some time and keep studying the regular pua stuff....