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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:15 pm 
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Hey Guys,

Here is a link to the free online bootcamp. This is part one and on the page you'll find links to the rest of the 5 parts:

http://www.puatraining.com/puablog/2009 ... sentation/

This is the best of the material material I amassed over my first year or so in the game. We no longer teach it but there's some great stuff so I wanted to give it all away for free. Enjoy!

I'm also going to check on this thread so ask me ANYTHING at all and i'll try and be as responsive as possible.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 11:55 pm 
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In your opinon whats the best way to overcome resistance from a woman whether its taking her clothes off or about to have intercourse


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:07 am 
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Hey TMT,

Good question. But a long one to answer!
In brief...

To take her top off, I have already touched her boobs through her top, and usually have undone her bra at the back whilst kissing her. The first move should be to brush your hand past her boobs and see if she flinches. If she doesn't escalation will be easy.
I'll usually go down and kiss her belly and put my hand underneath and touch her boobs and slide her top up and move up and pay her boobs some attention. By this point I can indicate that she should take her top off by lifting it up a bit more and she'll do the rest.

With the pants, I undo her button pretty easily, usually without her noticing, and this creates more space to put by hand down. I'll put my hand down the back and touch her ass and then move on to her pussy. After a while I can move around to the front and obviously it'd be easier without her pants and knickers on so i'll start pulling them down.

The key in both instances is that she is turned on.

I like the question "shall we use a condom" at the point of sex. But I keep my condoms right by the bed so normally just reach over and get one and put it on without saying anything.

A nice move is also to put her hand on your dick because she might not do it herself.

So that deals with physical objections, but verbal objectionss I deal with by agreeing. "I don't want to have sex", "yeah for sure, we can just kiss, I can control myself!" For example, but then you just continue escalating. With a good girl, you might need to take over an hour to get to the point of no return.

I used to get loads of LMR, now I don't think it ever comes up. A big part of it is how honest they think you are and how comfortable you are with the situation.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:34 pm 
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Alri Gambler,

I just turned 18 three months ago so i'm kinda new to the club scene but i've been teaching myself pick-up for over a year now.I got into pick-up after the 1st series of the pua on vh1 but before that when I was 16 I tried to teach myself NLP after watching A Derren Brown Show but never really got decent at it

Would be class if You have any tips on how to become a more spontaneous and fun to be around person? I get kinda shy when in groups and tend not to say much which makes me come across as boring to the girls I guess.But when I approach by myself I do ok just in groups I go kinda quiet...

Also i'm interested to give learning NLP another go, where would you recommend to start?

When I walk past a girl in the street I notice alot of the time that they touch their hair just as they walk past me, would this count as an ioi?

Any advice appreciated, cheers.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:44 am 
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Hey Sean,

It sounds like you are getting some IOIs, yes. Once might be chance, but sounds like it's a common thing.

For NLP, I recommend the old Bandler books: Using your brain for a change, frogs into princes, etc. You can also check out our NLP guy's stuff, he's very good and has some blog posts that are worth reading here: http://www.puatraining.com/puablog/author/ben/

To get more comfortable speaking in groups, you've got to do some public speaking. I did a TEFL course (teaching English to foreigners) but there are hundreds of things that make you the centre of attention. Opening big groups of girls is good practice. If you stay around your social cirlce it's tough to become a new person, so you need to get out of it and push yourself. I've changed a lot in this regard, I was always the shy guy that never spoke, now I can do all the talking - if I want to. Although I usually just chill and let others speak, but at least it's an option now! :wink:


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 1:00 am 
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Hey Gambler Im a high school student ( a senior ) and I have no problem with the opener but its the stacking and DHV I have problem with

I just have no idea were to take the conversation and I'm kinda thick when it comes to realizing when she's giving me hints as to what she'd wanna talk about

and I also dont know how to give DHV's in an inviroment were I've already given so many DLV's such as school

can you help me with this?

( Oh ya and I know my spelling is awefull but its never been one of my strong suits so please bear with me :P )


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 1:09 am 
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Hey Broder,

Thanks for the question!
Tough for me to answer this because i'm all about natural game and don't use DHVs or routine stacks. The video I posted has tons on conversation and some routine-based stuff, have a look and ask me any specific questions on it.

The two problems are linked - not being sensitive to what she wants and not knowing what to say. If you are constantly in your head trying to remember a routine and in "recite mode", it's really tough to switch to "spontaneous mode" which is what you need in a conversation. By being focused on yourself you'll also miss IOIs and stuff too.

If you can open, and get a good response, a number close shouldn't be too difficult so maybe you are thinking you need to run through steps (routine, DHV) that you don't need to take. Try going for the close earlier.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 3:51 am 
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Well wouldnt it be good to know a routine until I'm good enough for it to come naturally?


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 3:59 am 
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For sure man, it's cool to use routines when you are starting out even if your goal is natural game. But since you can open fine and only have a problem with conversation, it sounds like you are already pretty good.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 4:04 am 
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Alright thanks

I guess all I need to do is work on being a good story teller ( which shouldnt be hard since I'm a writer :P )

I should also work on my listening skills a little and learn to read the situation better :)


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how do you build social proof when you have a 10PM curfew. have friends who are not very outgoing.

also how do you build one when you get panic attacks in public places. which includes gym, malls, concerts, all the teen hangout places


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Gambler... for the prize... Is it Kezia??????!

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 7:58 pm 
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Thanks for the reply and advice RG.

Yeah I agree I have to make myself the center of attention instead of waiting for it to happen, its something i'm going to do.
I am trying to build myself into a new person and yeah I do find that my current social circle is holding me back.I do plan in moving away from home once my exams are finished in two years.
My long term goal is to master pick-up and then be able to help other guys here in Ireland.

Hey Rocky, I know I'm not RG but it sounds like you have SAD-Social Anxiety Disorder.I used to get nervous like you, just been in public places. I always felt people were looking at me and judging me.I recommend self-hypnosis and NLP.Self-Hypnosis from Paul McKenna and Hypnotica helped me out alot.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 8:11 pm 
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Hey Gambler,

Recently I had to differ between something called a rejection and resistance.

I honestly cannot tell the different and I treat both as the same thus making me next the girl and not initiating any further contact with her. Im not talking specificly about sexual resistance and rejection im talking about the stage before having sex with the girl. For example , If I call a girl for a D2 and she tells me she is busy with her friends I usually just put it in my mind that it woudnt work out. If I talk to a girl and she aint complying Ill try to further the compliance and if it still gets a level of negative feed back I next her.


The problem is in an interaction the man must "plow" but plowing is arranged for resistances and not rejections.

So what are some indicators that can help me detect these. I realised that the best way to find out is to spend more time and experience with women so it just finally clicks as a natural.

thanks ,
Arman Van Kleise


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 8:12 pm 
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Thanks for the reply and advice RG.

Yeah I agree I have to make myself the center of attention instead of waiting for it to happen, its something i'm going to do.
I am trying to build myself into a new person and yeah I do find that my current social circle is holding me back.I do plan in moving away from home once my exams are finished in two years.
My long term goal is to master pick-up and then be able to help other guys here in Ireland.

Hey Rocky, I know I'm not RG but it sounds like you have SAD-Social Anxiety Disorder.I used to get nervous like you, just been in public places. I always felt people were looking at me and judging me.I recommend self-hypnosis and NLP.Self-Hypnosis from Paul McKenna and Hypnotica helped me out alot.
I know what helped me get over panic in public was just thinking about something else or pretending your some place that you are in your comfort zone


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