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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:48 pm 
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I'm sure this video must have been posted before:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mRM1VwUiYA

But I wanted to discuss the psychology at play here.

There's some obvious things:

1) This is day game, girls are low energy, alone, mostly bored with their bitch shields down.

2) The bravado of such a direct opener is clearly attractive.

3) Implied false time constraint. The implication here is that the guy has to go, which is why he's getting a number and that's all.

Now the slightly more complicated bit.

4) In most of these approaches, the guys turn away from the girl almost immediately after handing her the phone. In these, this is because the girl is unsure and gives them a verbal/non-verbal IOD. Turning away takes away the "creep" factor. And says "I'm not going to call you 24/7".

4a) On the first girl, watch her body language. She turns in to face him. She's clearly attracted to him before he even says "Hi". In this case, he doesn't turn around until she's putting in the number. This has the non-creep factor from 4) but also people *hate* being watched doing tasks. Have you ever noticed that your typing ability goes to shit if someone is watching over your shoulder? This is pure comfort building.

4b) Same with the water bottle. It says "I'm busy doing my own thing, take your time".


5) What I can't work out is the sunglasses. Any thoughts on this? Eye contact is incredibly powerful in game. Making eye contact with the girl prior to approaching would mean you could filter the girls and only go for warm approaches. Hiding the eyes surely makes you look less trustworthy? I really am at a loss to explain the sunglasses. And they must be tactical, both guys are wearing them and it's not particularly sunny.

Almost all of these girls will be flakes and fake numbers but still, it's impressive. Again, it's not going to work in most scenarios and it's a rather pointless pickup compared with traditional approach/attract/comfort/close methods which are less likely to flake... but the psychology here is golden.

Any thoughts on the sunglasses?


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:17 pm 
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I can't imagine the sunglasses would do him much good. It does create a somewhat mysterious look and allows the man to reward the girl's compliance by removing them and giving her eye-contact. But during a daytime approach like this where he is asking for a phone number on the approach, it's more useful to appear friendly and non-dangerous than it is to look cool.
Regardless, this video isn't of that much value. What he is doing is ballsy and brave and perhaps even somewhat attractive, but like you said almost all the numbers will likely be flakes or fakes. Flash game like this is usually put out there to shock and awe new guys into thinking "Wow these pickup artist master guys can do anything!" or get any girl or whatever.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 11:51 am 
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Is there any data on how many of these girls actually picked up/gave real numbers? Also what was the ratio of girls that shot you down to the girls that accepted? Not that I don't believe this will work, I'm just trying to filter out some of the bullshit. If he sat in that park for 3 weeks to get a 3 minute video, and none of these girls picked up I will be a little more skeptical.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:34 pm 
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Holy shit do you over analyze. I mean you may be right, but who gives a flying fuck. Its a number. What the fuck doesa number get you. One number closer to 1000 contact in your phone book that you will never call?

Seriously, go out a set should not be 2 mins, it should be 10x that. Enough said.

But good eye I guess on the body language ques. Still way to much thinking, but fuck would I know.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:10 pm 
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you're on a pua board complaining about over-anlysis? Isn't all pua about over-analysing? :P


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:18 pm 
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No lol. It's about learning your core identity and not giving a shit about results and then translating your success into results.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 1:08 am 
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it's real socially awkward what he's doing, and the ones agreeing definitely aren't the top caliber in physical appearance on the campus except maybe the one sitting at the pic nic table. It kind of looks like some of these girls particularly her, might sense he's nervous, or a beginner, and they are just throwing him a bone to build his confidence.

I suppose his goal is to get to a point in the convo to raise the sunglasses and show his eyes but I don't know.
I get the impression that the guy is slightly awkward emotionally connecting with women but surviving on his looks.


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Vitaly was a bang bus porno actor who uses many of his former "co-workers" in his videos. Don't take it too literal, his material with females is all for entertainment and mostly planned beforehand.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 5:36 pm 
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Stop thinking so much. If youre curious about it, dont bring it here to discuss it and try to analyze it. Thats keyboard jockeyism. Go out and try it yourself.

My personal results with it: 2 out of 5 girls gave me their number. One those two was underage and crazy. Other was cute but nothing ever came of it. My advice, use this as a social warmup. Use it to get in set and your first Number/blowoff of the night and just have fun with it. Numbers are worthless anyways without a connection.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 2:56 am 
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He really needs CAMTACTS!! Theres no way he can remember all those names and faces!! LOL


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