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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:23 pm 
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Fillipino Girl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNxZJKieCMg

Why you should be honest and authentic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uq_fKQEbrw

Dominance and leading (no sound, sorry but you can see from the BL and vibe)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inY4P2C4KUA

Russian Girl Pickup - self amusement (not dancing monkey)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCCNPf2BNGI

Approaching women at underground station

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SenydNYKHWo

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I don't know what it is, but to be brutally honest I find your game a bit too fast and a tad creepy. You have the confidence though and that's what will keep you going.

For the Philipino video you have balls and she liked that, but as you can tell the escalation at the end of the video creeped her out as she moved away. Also throughout the whole conversation she kept on waving her hand and pointing away. The way she was talking was also as if she had to come up with stuff off the top of her head, possible making an excuse to leave fast. As for the number I would say chances of her going out are slim because again you have to sms her before hand.


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Lots of confidence and very direct. This works for folks who are attractive like yourself but what would you do for guys who lack that initial attraction and are required to build attraction first? You certainly couldn't go direct or you wouldn't allow one of your tools to build attraction, your personality.

Direct game to me is less of a skill more of a numbers game. It doesn't require you learning to build attraction, just basically testing to see if she is attracted. Your directness is attractive to some, and if there is initial attraction is quite easy to capitalize on. I'm not against direct game but I think someone who has true game and is very good with women has a wide variety of tools depending on the moment. Going direct is good sometimes, sometimes it's good just to have a conversation and see where it goes(indirect).

My interest is illustrated by my action they must qualify for me, when I talk to a woman she better find something interesting to say because I'm not worried about finding another woman. I interact with tons of people. Sounds kind of arrogant and I do apologize for that but I truly think that the man who goes direct after attraction is built will do better than he who goes direct before attraction is confirmed.

Courtship is situational, each woman is different even moment to moment and thus requires you understanding her: How to attract her, connect with her, turn her on, fuck her, read her and understand how she thinks. Otherwise you are just going to get the same percentage, the same girls, the same overall results. If you learn to read the situation and see more what you should say or do for the situation you will do tons better.

By no means am I saying that you are a bad PUA, very good in fact. It's just hard to show some of these other guys how to pick up women with your style when in your case you usually have initial attraction.

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Lots of confidence and very direct. This works for folks who are attractive like yourself but what would you do for guys who lack that initial attraction and are required to build attraction first? You certainly couldn't go direct or you wouldn't allow one of your tools to build attraction, your personality.

Direct game to me is less of a skill more of a numbers game. It doesn't require you learning to build attraction, just basically testing to see if she is attracted. Your directness is attractive to some, and if there is initial attraction is quite easy to capitalize on. I'm not against direct game but I think someone who has true game and is very good with women has a wide variety of tools depending on the moment. Going direct is good sometimes, sometimes it's good just to have a conversation and see where it goes(indirect).

My interest is illustrated by my action they must qualify for me, when I talk to a woman she better find something interesting to say because I'm not worried about finding another woman. I interact with tons of people. Sounds kind of arrogant and I do apologize for that but I truly think that the man who goes direct after attraction is built will do better than he who goes direct before attraction is confirmed.

Courtship is situational, each woman is different even moment to moment and thus requires you understanding her: How to attract her, connect with her, turn her on, fuck her, read her and understand how she thinks. Otherwise you are just going to get the same percentage, the same girls, the same overall results. If you learn to read the situation and see more what you should say or do for the situation you will do tons better.

By no means am I saying that you are a bad PUA, very good in fact. It's just hard to show some of these other guys how to pick up women with your style when in your case you usually have initial attraction.
I don't really have time or the inclination to go into detail and refute you point by point. To be honest I think what you have written is a lot of KJing waffle.

Check out my blog www.seductioninlondon.wordpress.com. I go into more details there.

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Here is another one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J0JCvAQuOk

I thankyou

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some okay daygame

however you definitely lean in too much = schoolboy error. Lean back with your neck man, dont lean in if you didnt hear what she said.


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Steve, just like Alexander Prime, who recently started posting on this forum, it may be good to present your credentials first as I recognize your name as someone who has been an accomplished and respected member of the PUA community for a long time.

while this doesn't immunize you from criticism it should partially inoculate you against some new guys who dont recognize the finer points of your style from chiming in with uneducated comments as new guys tend to do in an effort to garner instant credibility. I'm not necessarily referring to anyone on this thread - i'm just saying.


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I don't really have time or the inclination to go into detail and refute you point by point. To be honest I think what you have written is a lot of KJing waffle.

Check out my blog www.seductioninlondon.wordpress.com. I go into more details there.

Thanks

Steve
I really don't care to read the blog of another PUA who goes direct, I won't learn much, if anything. My style is a bit more.

What point could you refute? Honestly? I would like to understand where my argument holds weakness. I doubt you can find any true weakness in my argument, mainly because I base my thoughts on observation, experience, and reading other peoples observations of the courtship process.

Again I say you are a very good PUA but I'd like to see someone learn to just walk up along side someone and start a conversation rather than needing to stop someone. You have a lot of wit, and you carry a conversation well. You are very good at being a part of the conversation and just seeing where it goes.

You are good at using your attraction, and you build on it very well. You are a witty guy. Solid at picking up a girl, but like I said I would like to see someone who was a lot smoother in starting a conversation.

How can an ugly guy walk up and say what you say and have consistent success (even with confidence)?

You should have posted some good info and articles before you started posting all your videos so we could get more of a feel of your style, got more interaction going. It seems so impersonal, it's hard to not critique you.

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Steve, just like Alexander Prime, who recently started posting on this forum, it may be good to present your credentials first as I recognize your name as someone who has been an accomplished and respected member of the PUA community for a long time.

while this doesn't immunize you from criticism it should partially inoculate you against some new guys who dont recognize the finer points of your style from chiming in with uneducated comments as new guys tend to do in an effort to garner instant credibility. I'm not necessarily referring to anyone on this thread - i'm just saying.
Yes I did this already in introductions.

I also included a link where the owner of this website and PUA Training (Richard La Ruina) talks about how we travelled together and how a large part of his current skill with women is based on what he learned from me. I was very grateful that Richard did this, actually. He is a good guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J0JCvAQ ... ture=g-upl

I will be getting a whole lot more video footage.

Re leaning in :

Not leaning in originally was posted by Tyler, as a GUIDELINE FOR NEWBIES of 25 things to avoid. He later rescinded this by the wasy as he said that saying "don't do this" ultimately didn't help his students. Have a look, dig around - you will find it.

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I am about as far removed from a newbie as it is humanly possible to be.

If guru x says not to do it. Who cares? The majority of so called Gurus are experts at internet marketing rather than the fine art of attracting women. In my case the reverse is true.

I intend to post some useful stuff on here. I would rather not have to argue / gainsay other posters to begin with! I want to avoid the internet hero / KJ if at all possible.

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I don't really have time or the inclination to go into detail and refute you point by point. To be honest I think what you have written is a lot of KJing waffle.

Check out my blog www.seductioninlondon.wordpress.com. I go into more details there.

Thanks

Steve
I really don't care to read the blog of another PUA who goes direct, I won't learn much, if anything. My style is a bit more.

What point could you refute? Honestly? I would like to understand where my argument holds weakness. I doubt you can find any true weakness in my argument, mainly because I base my thoughts on observation, experience, and reading other peoples observations of the courtship process.

Again I say you are a very good PUA but I'd like to see someone learn to just walk up along side someone and start a conversation rather than needing to stop someone. You have a lot of wit, and you carry a conversation well. You are very good at being a part of the conversation and just seeing where it goes.

You are good at using your attraction, and you build on it very well. You are a witty guy. Solid at picking up a girl, but like I said I would like to see someone who was a lot smoother in starting a conversation.

How can an ugly guy walk up and say what you say and have consistent success (even with confidence)?

You should have posted some good info and articles before you started posting all your videos so we could get more of a feel of your style, got more interaction going. It seems so impersonal, it's hard to not critique you.
Yes I will be posting a lot of good info and articles to explain things more. That's good feedback and point taken, thankyou.

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Re calibrating approach to situation. Yes, I can certainly do this. The vids I have so far happen to be direct, as that is what I felt like doing at the time.

Basically you can approach pretty much however the hell you like, if you have the balls and confidence to pull it off.

There are some social constraints - but they are not immutable laws and are largely irrelevant for a guys with great self confidence and belief. Actually breaking the so called "rules" is actually attractive, by the way.

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I'm gonna be showing a lot more stuff soon. I've got excellent cameramen now and we are getting used to working together...Expect more ambitious footage next weekend! Just wish the damn weather wasn't so shitty all the time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTomKxvEVz0

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Steve,

Wacthed a few of the vids and I just have a quick question. You got the numbers... you got the kiss closes... but how many of these girls actually led to F-Closes and potential relationships? The one girl was flying out of town... the other girls were from different countries... do you still speak with them?

What I also thought was interesting was your tactics. Like the guys said you were very direct. While it produced results (kiss closing and numbers) did it ever materialize into anything more? The one girl you kiss closed kept saying she had to go.... (the girl you spoke spanish 2) and looked uncomfterable with you being so close to her...


you "Results" to the average puas were "AMAZING" "omg he kiss closed in like 3 mins!..." but to an experienced pua (not saying i am) number closing and kiss closing are almost to be expected... I just didnt see much rapport form the videos.

Again thanks for posting them... and I am not knocking your game at all by any means (a lot of guys cant even open, get a number, and kiss close, rather do all in 3 of them in under 5 minutes). I was just wondering if these girls ever call u and want to hang out with you again.

Thanks!
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Steve,

Wacthed a few of the vids and I just have a quick question. You got the numbers... you got the kiss closes... but how many of these girls actually led to F-Closes and potential relationships? The one girl was flying out of town... the other girls were from different countries... do you still speak with them?

What I also thought was interesting was your tactics. Like the guys said you were very direct. While it produced results (kiss closing and numbers) did it ever materialize into anything more? The one girl you kiss closed kept saying she had to go.... (the girl you spoke spanish 2) and looked uncomfterable with you being so close to her...


you "Results" to the average puas were "AMAZING" "omg he kiss closed in like 3 mins!..." but to an experienced pua (not saying i am) number closing and kiss closing are almost to be expected... I just didnt see much rapport form the videos.

Again thanks for posting them... and I am not knocking your game at all by any means (a lot of guys cant even open, get a number, and kiss close, rather do all in 3 of them in under 5 minutes). I was just wondering if these girls ever call u and want to hang out with you again.

Thanks!
Duke
Every girl in the video got back to me, yes. I fucked 2 of them but then stopped because I met this girl. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uq_fKQEbrw&feature=plcp

The Kiss close girl texted me last night and wants to meet tonight.
But why have cotton when you can have silk?

I deal with this very question and much more here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uq_fKQEbrw&feature=plcp

It seems that a lot of people are curious about the same question as you. I think part of it is looking for a reason to shoot me down, which is a shame.

There is no arbitrary break up between attraction and rapport. Infact they all occur simultaneously. Choose your gurus carefully. Most of them have no idea what they are talking about.

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Sorry I didn't update my link, anyway I have done so now

More videos soon.

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