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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 3:01 pm 
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Funny thing is that they didn't even bother with hiding the cameras.

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Pros: Lot of the material was lame IMO & I could never see myself saying with a straight face, but there was LOTS to draw from watching how Mystery carries himself, how he speaks, & his overall confidence. He is a master of all that & could forget the method & get the girl on that alone IMO. It was useful to watch his frame control though & breaking rapport(negs). He was always in control & better than anyone I have seen on video's throwing out the negs. The girls looked so confused LMAO. I was very impressed with his game.

The thing I took most from this video though that I haven't seen on any other infield vids is the wingmanship. Wow. He, Matador, & Lovedrop work like a well oiled machine. Anytime an interrupt came in they were there to defuse them, anytime the set was stalling they magically show up to infuse energy or just stand there for a second so the other wouldn't lose value while being ignored. Of course they had a whole gambit that talked the friends up & gave them value before they came in, just so when they came in they could give that value back & talk the other up. I want a wing that has game as strong as mine after watching that. That was awesome.


Cons:You never really saw them opening, which is probably the most critical part of game. He had 1 decent opener but it was situational & not the opinion he teaches & the women actually opened Mystery several times & others were just picked up after they were already talking. That was disappointing.

Also the camera's following him. I think it gave him a lot of value. Of course people are going to be interested in talking to you with a camera crew hanging around IMO.


It's certainly worth a a watch for the pro's I named IMO. I really liked the way he handled the 3rd interaction or so when the older women had opened him up, & he used her to make the other girls jealous. He had so many women wanting his attention in that club it was hard to follow. Ended up with the older woman I guess, (to each his own, she did seem wild like she would try hard & rock your world) but she basically threw herself at him from the start.

Anyone catch the dude in the 1st interaction that knew who he was, talking about peacocking & 3 sets. They had a whole undercover conversation, about being in the game & on the same page.

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:arrow: imo mystery looks pretty fake. he seems very insecure and stuff, even if he had all the theory and routines well prepared. his voice tonality and his shy body language in this field video makes him look pretty gay.

:arrow: and why the F%@# did they cut the openings which are essential.

:arrow: also the 1st girl is not hot imo. the old lady was just a horny b1atch who is so f@kin obvious she'd fuk a donkey but luckily for her she found mystery. the last girl was not bad at all, but she was very drunk -- with a very drunk girl u dont need super skills as the problem is like 80% solved, her logical mind is almost shut down anyway so all u need is to turn her on a lil bit with some kino and kissing and she'll want sex.

:arrow: hearing mystery explaining the theory i figured he must be a real killer in the field, but the video is disappointing. :arrow:


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Well, I'm not going to judge Mystery or his game based on this video alone because I know we all have our good days but sometimes things don't go as we want them to. He didn't get his reputation as a pick up artist for doing nothing and being unsuccessful, but I wasn't too impressed with this (the parts I watched). I haven't really seen videos of Mystery in field so I have nothing to compare this too, but I suppose with the title of "The Holy Grail" I was expecting to be blown away haha.

I can't really give any negative comments further than that because it's not like I have in-field videos I can post showing any better. Although it wasn't what I was expecting, I respect him for his work and obviously what he does works for him or he wouldn't be doing it.


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got no time for the whole vid now, i need sleep.
just basic observations:
- telling them to call him (a stranger) "mystery" sounds like shooting your own foot to me...
- he talks about himself the whole time, which obviously makes me assume that he also THINKS about himself the whole time = no fun, beta, selfconscious
- he wants to come across laid back, chilled. but inside hes not, just listen to him when he talks to the audience (you).

learned nothing new about pick up nor about "mystery" (ouch my foot).
my analysis: all his success is based on experience, the hard way. theories left and right, all needing to be "field-tested", he's essentially WORKING his way into women's pants step by step.
not where i park my car (insert gay joke here).
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Oh Shit. During "Mystery opens 5 set" it hit me.
This is the same party that Mehow filmed part of his 'Get the Girl! Infield Exposed'
The goofy shit projected rotating on the wall.
And fuckin airplane sounds ever couple mins.
Odd if they both just happend to do their video shoots at the same party right?

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They were both in the same party. But i dont know if they were winging each other.

http://www.mehow.tv/video/indexFull.php Click on that link > and find Bachelorette set part 2 :D :D

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Hmmm, i'm glad I got to see that. Never really seen much of mystery in field (maybe 1 min)

I took notes about things that are golden and I will use. I NEVER used canned material but some stuff can flow really well. Of course you must be congruent and confident like Mystery was:

"you gonna make me come down there?" (i'm 6' so it should work on shorter girls)

1 step back, 2 steps forward. He push pulled a lot of the time. Example: *hug*, *push gently* "ok that's all you get"

"you look like that bad one, you look like the good one" ... add: "i can sense it in your eyes".... also about "friend will always look at eachother and have some sort of esp communication shit goin on"

"do you believe in ESP?", "ok well" *grab*, "face me". "Now think of a number between 1 and 4, write it down in your head DONT say it out loud..." "ok... wait... ummmm hmmmmm, GET OFF ME." "it's 3." (3 is what I guessed myself lol)

+Interest with "2 on 1 fight and her blouse was ripped open" story

*she's talking some nonsense*.... *point at her then at you* while saying: "annnnnd back to me"

*interrupt her* "You're adorable, I eat girls like you for breakfast, ok go on"

"i'm curious about you, I don't know why. What's your first impression of black males??"

"Oh I looooove you, good girl" *hug*

"What do you want to be when you grown up?" *point at her* "DONT say princess!" *smile*

"I'm so drawn to you, idk what it is, so you should take a step back" *gently push*

*girl talking nonsense in group* .... " she poops words!*

I got to about 4/5ths and need to go to the gym, but those are my favorites of the video.
That older blonde near the end definitely reminded me of an older Heather Locklier... she was cute. I like milfs lol.

And like previous said, throughout the night he keeps gaining attraction from VARIOUS girls. Not just one. He has options. What was it, like 3ish girls he could go up to and just hug or carress?

Beginning was very boring but he obviously wasn't completely in-state yet, or just being mellow and taking it slow. Then it picked up after he started drinking a bit, imagine that :roll:

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They were both in the same party. But i dont know if they were winging each other.

http://www.mehow.tv/video/indexFull.php Click on that link > and find Bachelorette set part 2 :D :D
Oh wow, yea. Right there, Mystery & Mehow. Well done DK

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-telling them to call him (a stranger) "mystery" sounds like shooting your own foot to me...
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arrow: imo mystery looks pretty fake.
Mystery looks like a clown. I doubt telling someone his friends call him"Mystery" scares them off when he is wearing a fuzzy top hat & goggles. You wouldn't catch me dead looking like him but to each his own. He's crafted an identity where he stands out & gets the type of women he wants.
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he seems very insecure and stuff, even if he had all the theory and routines well prepared. his voice tonality and his shy body language in this field video makes him look pretty gay.
We must not have been watching the same video. His voice & style of speaking are always strong. Stronger than any PUA I know of, & he hardly looked insecure to me. Infact half the time IMO he came off almost too cocky, arrogant & condescending & would throw negs that were borderline insulting if he wasn't selling them perfect. As far as his body language, it looked really strong to me outside of the sitting on the fountain with his legs crossed. That looked weak but the fact he looked so comfortable doing it, made it fine. Probably less intimidating for a woman because he is very tall & he was most importantly he was "locking in" & making it look as she was gaming him. If he did look gay that's not necessarily a bad thing either. Lot of women like gay guys & you can certainly go under the radar. Hell he tells 1 he is gay as a disqualifier.
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- he talks about himself the whole time, which obviously makes me assume that he also THINKS about himself the whole time = no fun, beta, selfconscious
I took it totally different. He came off to me as he only cares about himself & maybe his friends. But in pick up that kind of indifference & making yourself the prize & not needing anything from the chicks only draws them in. They were openning him so of course they are interested in learning about the guy dressed like a clown.
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- he wants to come across laid back, chilled. but inside hes not, just listen to him when he talks to the audience (you).
seemed chilled to me & hardly lacking for confidence.
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Oh Shit. During "Mystery opens 5 set" it hit me.
This is the same party that Mehow filmed part of his 'Get the Girl! Infield Exposed'
The goofy shit projected rotating on the wall.
And fuckin airplane sounds ever couple mins.
Odd if they both just happend to do their video shoots at the same party right?
Mehow was a student of Mystery & I think originally an instructor. He 's good friends with the Mystery crew. Mehow's Film crew was likely the same crew that shot this video. If you look on Mehow's page there are video's of him sarging with Mystery.


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"i'm curious about you, I don't know why. What's your first impression of black males??"
Black nails bro, as in finger nails. He uses that routine often. He will say something like "they aren't pink missy" if she gives him shit for wearing make up or what ever. What he was doing there was muilti threading which is have several topics going at once, much like close friends do. It' builds rapport. Lot of subtle things to be aware of in these video's. Lots of push pull physical and verbal. Never letting stuff sit. Like if he shows interest or does a neg he quickly jumps to another topic. The girls look so confused & in their head half the time which I think is actually good. You control the frame & lead once they do that.

As far as the routines. Be careful using many of them dude. If you are going to get busted on anything it's going to be the ancient $hit they use. Those are old school routines that are what's out in the media.


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lol u can get away with using most of these routines in England :P

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I like this mystery pick up best....



plows through all kinds of shit test.


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Nice post PUAdave. Great infield video. The whole conversation felt more natural. And it was funny when she asked Mystery, if the whole costume was just to stand out and then she says its all right i do that as well.

:D :D

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There is so much subtle stuff I loved about that video & the subcommunication in it. He just took a chick with a super bitch shield up and destroyed, but he knew he had her whole time. Watch her throughout . Clearly she is flirty & sending IOI’s even though she is hardcore testing him & on the surface has a front up. When Mystery nails her with a neg or a push pull you can see her get puppy eyed then confused and how she changes directly after. She’ll pull it back together and shit test some more, but he just kept breaking her down.

Highlights.
I like where she trys to take the frame & he's like who the hell are you missy, I don't have to answer that.

I like the part she says she is leaving(test), & he's like "well if you have to go" like no biggie...

5:25- “Your adorable”…..”I hate you you suck” all the while pushing and pulling physically as well with the hat even hitting her with it.

I like at the end where she says you wont walk away, & he’s like, “ill sit away”. She looks like don't go...

Total control.


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