So I watched this vid recently about nlp eye patterns...it's saying how people move their eyes according to what they're thinking about.

Well, I been trying it lately but I've noticed that it's not working on me. I don't want to say that it doesn't work, but it's just that I haven't made it work...any ideas?

This is the link in case you haven't seen the video...it's like the 3rd one down, called NLP Eye Patterns
http://freepuavideos.blogspot.com/

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I've heard something like that but different. Down means you are remembering and up means you are thinking creatively or fantasizing. Which is kind of different from what that video says.

What does it all mean? Each person has their own eye patterns for remembering stuff and it is very hard to discern from a random person what they are thinking by where they look (they could have a strange eye pattern, or none at all). There can be an average but then again you really can't tell with a random person. Instead try and notice patterns on people you hang out with and that would be a more reliable tell to how they react.

awesome advice thanks!

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As an NLP Master Practitioner, and someone who has used this information for sales, seduction, and patients, I can tell you that you can easily use it on people you just meant, you just need leading questions. Auditory question, Ask a visual question, Ask a feeling question, and watch their eyes. Listen to people when they talk and see what memory their asking. "it felt like. you should've saw how beautiful it was," simple things like that give you openings. I've done this completely professionally with sales, I've done it incredibly easy with seduction--in fact, because you're talking about them, about their experiences and you have to actually listen and hear what they are saying and you are focusing on their eyes, they become even more attracted to you.

But, tippi is absolutely correct, people are completely different, they access things completely differently. The eyes never lie, but they're different for everyone. Once you understand a person's eye movements, you understand how they process their thoughts, and thus you have a baseline to compare to their previous movements.

NICE ;p

About the empirical evidence supporting NLP's claims about eye patterns (copied from that great source of knowledge, wikipedia):
"A research review conducted by Christopher Sharpley which focused on preferred representational systems, in 1984,[53] followed by another review in 1987 in response to a critique published by Einspruch and Forman,[54] concluded that there was little evidence for its usefulness as an effective counseling tool. Reviewing the literature in 1988, Michael Heap also concluded that objective and fair investigations had shown no support for NLP claims about "preferred representational systems".[55]"

In psychological circles, NLP is widely viewed as a pseudo-science. Again from wikipedia: According to Witkowski (2010), NLP also appears on “the list of discredited therapies” published in the journal of Professional Psychology: Research and Practice.

Some of the tools of NLP do work ; eye patterns is not one of them. Why waste your time?

What they mean by that however is that a person who looks up and to the right, or accesses their visual memory, doesn't mean that they are always a visual person. It didn't however discredit the fact that a person's eyes still never lie. A person is consistent if anything. It's why you can tell someone is thinking about something by their eye movement, it's why dream sleep is called, REM, rapid eye movement. The eyes process information, whether consciously or unconsciously, it's only use is to be empathetic with someone when you recognize someone is talking to themselves whenever they look up and to the left, and you see them looking up and to the left when you ask them to go home with you. "I know you're thinking about it, weighing the pros and the cons," I've done this often and gotten nothing but positive responses, because now the woman feels as if I am truly paying attention to her, and that we're in tune with each other. That is what it does.

Ahhh... but that's the whole basis of NLP you see...

What NLP claims, is that a person's eye accessing cues (and sensory predicates in language use) are an indication of their preferred representational systems. This has shown to be completely inaccurate by psychological research, yet it is one of the very core principles of NLP.

NLP also claims that if you can access a person's preferred representational system, you can connect with them on a very deep level. The problem is that there is no support whatsoever among the scientific community for these claims, which has led NLP to be described as a pseudo-science.

Also, regarding claims that "a person's eyes never lie"... that'd be a fantastic tool if it allowed you to tell when somebody is lying, wouldn't it? The problem, again, is that research has shown that NLP practionners are no better (and in fact, slightly worse if my memory serves me right) at recognising a liar than the average Joe.