Whats up? You can call me Allmont, i'm still new as hell to this world but i'm incredibly intrigued. My buddy had the book 'The Game' and a while ago i picked it up, and read the first few pages. I was intrigued but still pretty caught up with school, my insecurities, my depression from my insecurities, etc. That was two years ago (i'm 19, still a virgin) now, i've gotten over those problems now for the most part, and a week ago, i finally got my hands on a copy of it. Upon picking it up for the first time (at 1:30AM with an exam the next day) i read half of it. I'm hooked. I love games like chess and poker, things that are easy to learn, difficult to master. Chess is a little more mechanical, but this seems to be like poker, that everyone can have their own touch, the bets you place or the plan you have laid out for the night.

I apologize if any of that sounded pompous as fuck. I'm drunk and tired and thats always a bad combination. its taken me like forty minutes to write this cause of all the typos i'm making, i;ll work on the grammar and edit tomorrow morinin.

On a side note, is my impression that lots of people like to go out thursdays wrong or am i just going to the wrong bars?

Hey, I'm not new here but rarely come around. So I feel new. If you are a virgin my suggestion would be to go out and get laid. I know it sounds ridiculous but sometimes you can't wait for things to "just happen" you have to make them happen. You basically have to go out with the intention of getting laid, without actually giving off such a vibe, hence why it's called an art. Once you do it once you it will get easier and easier. Might as well get it out of the way.
This kind of talk is something you need to avoid around women. I don't mean to pick you apart it's just that is what women do when they assess you. They categorize you based on your actions. Apologizing for your actions gives a woman the subconscious cues that you feel inferior to her. The secret to pick up is flipping the script, get women apologizing to you, trying to impress you ect.

I want you to realize that fuck ups happen, I made a HUGE mistake this past weekend. Lost my gf. The point is not to be perfect but to learn from your mistakes. Also some girls are just impossible to get. That's life. But with a little confidence, self discipline. You will be surprised what you can pull.

Another tip. If you wanna get laid, don't tell women you are a virgin. If you do reveal you are a virgin understand this. There are only two reasons you could possibly be a virgin in her eyes.
1. No girl will sleep with you.
That is game over for you if she believes this.
2. You chose to be a virgin.
This is what you would prefer her to believe since you can turn it into a fun chase for her.

Thanks Rakeal, sorry to hear about your gf.

I'm not really waiting for it to happen anymore, its just i'm still in the early stages without much success, i wasn't very good with conversation; opening, directing the conversation, etc.

I work in the food court of a mall though so thats where i've started, i just work on striking up conversations (not too bad at that). Some girls have given me their numbers without me asking, but i can't really snag the ones i'm after.

At the same time its not that I can't, its that i stop myself from doing anything. Every now and then, i'd say once a month a girl opens to me, shes exactly my type, and I just kinda just let it pass. I still talk to her, I just can't bring myself to take it anywhere.

I'm also working on getting comfortable and looking confident at clubs, i've tried opening a few times with some mixed results, but haven't really managed to get very far.

It'll take some time, i'm in no huge rush, i'll be in college in two months.

Dude I banged two girls a few days ago and it ROCKED! The one girl I knew so it was awkward but her friend was like 100 pound blond, bluish eyes. WOW!!

Your over thinking things. I never use canned material. That's cheesy. That's for guys that can't talk to women what so ever and need to be like a robot. Forget that. Your better off being yourself, armed with a set of tools and honed skills.

Just understand why the material works then use your own, I make it up on the fly. I let women guide the conversation. Who cares. There are KEY times when you build attraction/lose attraction. Like when you first say hello in a good confident tone.

Picture in your head that all women already want to sleep with you. And trust me they do. You just have to pass all the shit tests.

The way it works is that she wants to sleep with you but she won't just say it. She wants you to weasel your way in so that it "just happened".

The phone numbers, dating, ect. I don't do that. Like I do but not from a dating perspective. If you ask women to go out on a date with you, they will stand you up. They stand ME up. That's just life. Instead. I go over to their house to "hang out" or fix their computer. Or I say, hey I'll walk you home, if she says: "Don't expect to sleep with me" I say. Sure "We can just chill"

And I get them alone. And just sit beside them, maybe lightly touching them shoulder to shoulder. Throw on a movie, chit chat, cuddle a bit.

Usually they will signal to you that they want you to escalate, look deep in your eyes. Rub your hand, leg ect. All women are different. It will be as though both you know what is up but you don't come out and say it. And WHEN you get last minute resistance. This is when I KNOW I am in. Lets say I pull off her underwear and she says: "Hey, no sex" I say this: "Ok, I'm so hot and bothered. I should put my pants back on so I don't get tempted." she might say something like "Hey, your not going anywhere your supposed to cuddle me." and it's a game. Back and forth, push pull.

The point is you just have to DO IT (lol that's a little nlp to brainwash you into doing it haha). Don't talk about it, especially not to her,

You sound like your better than me. Women giving you their number ect.

Oh and be good in bed. Study that if you have to. If you are completely unsure. Just put it in only a little bit and slowly put it in more and more. Women might say f me harder ect. But save the energy so that each time she says harder you give her that much more. The show offs who go full out right away are boring because there is no escalation. I go from very slow to holding them down, lightly choking, hair pulling. ALL women like to be manhandled at the end. When I C#M I go the hardest I can until I pass right out on top of them sweating.

What happens with me is women talk. "He's a player and an asshole but he sure knows how to...."

Forget the bars too. It sounds like you are doing fine meeting them at work. You don't seem like the party type. If you meet women you have things in common with consistently (once a month is on par with me) then you've maybe got me beat. And they sound more genuine/honest than the girls I've been getting. You just need to follow through. If I was in your shoes. If a woman opened me and gave me her number. I would think: "She wants to have sex, how can I keep her entertained for a few hours while she gets to know me and how can I get her alone" and I would sleep with her.

oops I thought this was a private message. Haha. I didn't want that all public. Oh well.