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Lenko

Dude

When I was at Uni, I stayed with 3 girls and 1 guy who soon left, I thought great 3 girls but it was a nightmare women can be difficult to live with remember this.
However if they have accepted you in their house/halls then they all think you are cool.

The best strategy with the HB9 is not to show to much interest, I would play this gambit first work out the house dynamic, who the strongest girl is who is the one everyone adores I imagine its the HB9, work out who are the friendly girls and who are the gossips and etc do not make any moves until you know what your role in the house is, by this I mean, you said you were good looking, so do they treat as a friend do they act weird around you etc. Find out who your friends and who doesn't like you as much.

Then make an friend with one of the other girls she is the key to get to the HB9, one things girls hate as much as men is when we see someone who is really attractive with someone who is 'datty' use this to your advantage in front of the HB9 always show more interest to someone else you have the advantage of already having 'chirpsed' her.

Whatever you do, do not tell HB9 you like her, you said you like womans character and want to hopefully get married to a nice girl someday trust me buddy so does everyone else but in order to get to that stage you have to realise you strengths and weakness's when it comes to women, if a previous relationship didn't workout find out why and change that behaviour about yourself.

I think your weakness is you are a nice guy and unfortunately the world we live in today don't appreciate nice guys, its not that people dont like nice guys its that every ones nice everyones normal be different be spontaneous don't give a fuck..
If you display this quality not only will your popularity grow within the household the HB9 will see the social proof and you can deal with her at your will.

Remember in relationship you are either the chaser or the person being chased, admittedly in the past I have chased a gorgeous woman because I just had to deal with her, but that type of behaviour tells her she is in control. NO we are men we should be in control, anyway this HB9 after a long relationship decided that I was too ordinary too boring and that my life wasn't going anywhere. After we broke up I had a long hard look at myself and decided to change radically and I did I now work for an Investment bank, I have smashed a range of HB9's and I am currently trying to get with a girl who I think might be the one, but I still doubt myself from time to time its natural human nature to doubt yourself from time to time but trust me, me and you have come to the right place.

Its all most like in the modern world women wield more power than men, these PUA forums would be unheard of in the past but I guess times they are changing.

I hope some of this has been some help, I have had 3 beers aswell and its late.

Peace

Alatheia00

Dude,you have NO IDEA how quickly a situation like that WILL screw up on you.
You game her,you bone her,you go out with her,you break up,btu you're still living with her....that WILL get awkward and weird,and the potential of her boxblocking any women you DO bring over to the house is immense.

Steer clear of the roommates friend,beauty isn't rare.

I'm with NiK0lai on this: risk v reward doesn't work out in your favour.

Dont shit where you sleep so to speak.

Living with women can be great Ive done so, but I never lived with a woman I slept with. They came over crashed left so on and so forth. I can almost guarantee this will end poorly.

I hear what your saying, about not shitting on your doorstep, but the guy already said he likes HB9 and maybe can see a future with her, regardless of the advice we given him we cant control who he is attracted to.

But the other ops are right be very careful.

Pros

you could develop a relationship with her and you would be living together

Cons

If things dont work out you would have to deal with her everyday
She might be hot, but after spending most of uni with her she will not seem as special as we value the things that are scarce in this world.

You will not be able to smash any other girls at your house without upsetting her, however this can also be viewed as a Pro depending on how you view it.

just say you develop feeling for her and then it doesn't work out and she brings someone else back to the house...

Thankyou, I appreciate all of your opinions. I am well aware of the consequences of screwing this up. However, I have decided to go ahead and see what happens for myself. as Alatheia says.. you cant control who you're attracted to...If i don't do this now, i never will, and i hate living with regret. It would eat me up for the entire year. I have always been quite picky with women, and this HB9 has ticked all the boxes so far.

Alatheia, cheers for the advice on gaming my housemate. My thought process was pretty much exactly what you wrote so its nice to get some confirmation. My game will start from now. I will not be contacting/ giving any attention to her via any electronic communication before i move in (facebook, msn, txt.. ect). she already gets alot of male attention via facebook ...and barely EVER replies to these comments...i will be the exception. I plan on doing pretty much what you stated. The other girls all seem very pleasant, so it will not be a problem befriending one of them in order to get some jealousy flowing. Would you advise I befriend the housemate that is closest to HB9? If so i think i know what one i will go for... This pick up will not be rushed as you said. I will be taking my time in order to avoid coming across as 'creepy'.

going back to the worse case scenario, 'I get with her... we go out for a few months... i become emotionally attached... she ends it...were stuck in the house...she brings home other men...i feel shit'

Yeah that scenario does sound pretty damn nasty.... but i have been in much worse situations in my life and i could safely say i'll be able to cope with it. hey... maybe if i were out with her for a year and broke up i would feel differently.. however by then i wont be living in the same house as her so it wont be a problem.. so fuck it.

I will be moving into my house in one months time. So until then I will not have anything to report, I WILL be posting regular updates on HB9 progress when i move in. So remember to check this thread in one months time...

Until then, please do share more of your thoughts with me. I will be on here every few days or so (i work full time, so some nights i will be too tired). If you have any more tips then feel free to tell them as i have one month worth of preparation time.

cheers, Lenko x

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Lenko

All your attraction for this girl should be conveyed through your actions as opposed, to your words dont tell her you like her.

This can be done, through eye contact, body posture and making her feel attractive.

As you will be living with her you have the ideal opportunity to do something nice for her, if she asks for you help be charming and go over and beyond whats required so she sees not only do you care but you can be relied upon.

Mix up, time of showing great interest in her with time of showing no interest at all, this will freak her out but if this is done over a long enough period she will buckle and succumb to you.

If other guys are interested in her (this is important) you CANNOT show that you are effected by this, if she talks about other guys either change the subject or say yeh he sounds nice or some other line never get upset by her comments women dont know what they want half the time.

MAKE sure you do not try and solve her problems if she says I have so and so problem regarding her past or etc etc do not give her detailed advice on how to resolve it (I have been guilty of this in the past) dont do it she will rely on you and then you will be relegated to the FRIENDZONE. If she says anything like this just say, "im sure you will be ok" or "you seem smart enough to deal with this" be
nonchalant unless of course she asks you to do something as a favour, this is a test make sure you go above and beyond what is required,

Spend more time-if it to do with time

Spend more money then you need - if it requires money

Go further than is required.

If you get the chance listen to this audio book if you have bittorrent download
Robert Green - The art of seduction this book is evil in terms of the techniques it tell you to manipulate other people.

Make sure you have a healthy supply of other women interested in you to make her jealous.

I hope this helps

I myself was about to fall into the friendzone with this girl from the gym but I sent her some naughty texts and stopped acting like a friend more like a lover, her behaviour changed towards me she no longer spends all her gym time with me and she deliberately flirts with other guys infront of me, but this is a shit test,
When we are talking she looks directly into my eyes and she was all dressed up wearing so much make yesterday I know she likes me, I can tell from her body language.

I was so sure about getting a rux with her that I took 4 condoms in my gym bag anyway her friends probably told her, play hard to get show him that you talk to other guys in the gym dont be so available. This is after I took a 2 week break from the gym to stir her interest she must of sent me 10 texts and called numerous times, I was very selective in the way I responded and always made her think I was busy even if I was at home.

Its all a game but you need to know how to read it, most guys would of given up a long time ago, for me the longer the chase the more sweeter the reward. Anyway she sent me a text today apologising for talking to the other guys at the gym I didn't reply.

If a girl violates your principles -- Punish her (always do this and she will see your
not someone she can walk over)

Anyway the reason I am telling you this is because, I want you to know that we are in similiar positions, although admittedly you have already been with HB9 my HB9 was an old friend from 15 years ago who was fat now she is hot hot hot and she knows it, using game on her has increased my chances of success tenfold, without sounding arrogant I am good looking chap and intelligent, so I just couldn't understand when I was younger my relationships wouldn't work out until I realised it was because I wasn't displaying the attractive characteristics women crave.


Peace

Alatheia

Dude, Ive done this...TWICE... and it was some of the best experiences of my life...till it ended...then it became a NIGHTMARE OF EPIC PROPORTIONS!

The one girl went crazy on me. U know how hectic it is to live with a crazy ex girlfriend! My toothbrush would misteriously end up in the toilet. and thats when i KNEW about it... trust me u dont wanna wonder about the state of your toothbrush while ur using it!

She went all suicidal on me and ULTRA jelous..was just a bad fucking...

DONT DO IT! ITS NOT WORTH IT

and btw I love that quote "Beauty ISN'T RARE!"

Puasa, you stated it yourself 'it was some of the best experiences of your life'. As i expressed earlier, I'm going to bite the bullet and see for myself. I have faith that even if it does go tits up i'll be able to neutralise it somehow. Plus it would be a real accomplishment if it succeeds. Thankyou for the warning though... unfortunately i'm stubborn and too curious for my own good.... and i really like her. Why waste this opportunity! life's short!

Alatheia, thanks yet again. Your advice is sound. I'm curious as to Robert Greens Art of Attraction, I use VUZE and unfortunately cannot find a torrent for it. If you know of a torrent it would be very helpful if you could link me it. Most of my game is built upon body language so It would be good to extend my knowledge further.

Yes our situations are indeed similar, you seem to have your game under control and have a strong txt game, which is good to hear (I'm shit at txt game, I always come across like a prick through txt. It's a huge barrier for me. I always try to phone or meet HB's rather than txt as i either push it too far or bore her via txt). I hate using smileys (especially the wink ones) so when i say something tongue and cheek it comes across rude. ah well, its all room for improvement.

Lenko

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Lenko

Its your grave bro. Your getting in "INSTA-WIFE" Just had water!

looks its gonna be fun, but it can only end badly from mine and MANY MANY other guys experience. If u hook it up, more power to you, but you've been warned.
Good luck either way and PM me in a couple of months and let me know how things went! I'll be keen to know if you pulled it off.

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Dude here is a link for the Robert Greene book

link removed by moderator for violation of the forum rules

your gonna need bittorrent or a torrent client to download it, if you dont know how to download using a torrent I can help you with that aswell.

All these naysayers are making me feel negative, bro don't listen, you are the man, you are in control. The only reason women break up with men is if we dont behave in the way we are naturally supposed to, or we stop behaving in the way we are supposed to its all pyschology.

I promise you if you listen to this book and learn it back to front it will make you into a boss playa (you must have some game aswell to work with), before working where I do, I was at a law firm on my floor were 6 different girls all fit some more than others after reading this book I smashed 3 of them, one of them I tried all these tactics on she was just acting like a bitch the whole time like she hated me. When we went out on the town for work one night, she got me on my own and literally devoured me. All though the girls new that I had dealt with at least 2 of them, I never acted like a dick always maintained a cool assured persona and was always pleasant and charming when talked too (in other words I looked at the individual girl and seduced her according to what her weakness's were) and when the girls did finally confront me, I told them I was weak and had never been good at relationships girls would always leave me lol at this point I realise 2 things that ultimately we can have anything we want even girls who put up stubborn resistance and that if I ever saw Robert Greene I would have to buy the dude a drink ( I should be a salesperson for this dude lol).



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Alatheia

hey man, no worries I got Robert Greens audio book (I searched 'attraction' instead of 'seduction'). I'm going to start listening to it tonight, roughly 6 hours of audio! so its going to take me a while to before i can feedback on that. Had a brief listen to the intro and it sounds like some pretty awesome stuff.

Not much to report at the moment i'm afraid guys! I'm just looking forward to getting back to uni to let the games commence. Don't worry I'm still going ahead as originally planned. This girl WILL NOT be easy. from what i've found out recently she can be a bit of a ball breaker hah...should be fun!

I'm working full time back in my hometown at the moment, been meeting up with these two girls (one who i used to be very close friends with) and the other i have know along time and are pretty good friends. They are my two weaknesses in life. A definite severe oneitis case. one has had a boyfriend for about 4/5 years (I'm certain she's not happy with him, and he's a total prick) and the other has had a boyfriend for nearly 2 years (an absolute clinger who knows he's punching above his weight, and who is also a prick). I don't really know what to do about them. The two girls asked me to meet up (separately lol) and i really like them (and have done for years). I have been deliberately avoiding contacting/seeing them for years now as every time i do the oneitis comes back. Do you think its worth doing anything about these two girls. Or should i leave it for now?

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Lenko

When I was 23 I fell for this gorgeous indian girl who I knew from the start was a player, anyway I acted completely crazy when we went out and used other womans attention to make her feel jealously, by the end of the night we inevitably started dealing with each other. Anyway after having amazing sex with her a couple of times I turned into a clingy prick, completely the opposite of the confident ladykiller she had first met and slowly slowly everything disintegrated. I could not get over this girl and all my friends kept telling me she was a bitch but I had the worst case of Oneitis ever imaginable. She wanted to stay friends I did aswell but after some advice my friend told me not to contact her for a month, exactly on the 30 day she rang me and said the usual shit that she missed me and wanted to see me. This time I promised myself I would be strong and not let her get to me, we had sex but afterwards when I was going home I realised that she was just using me for sex and I sent her a nasty text telling her all of her shortcomings and I never wanted to see her again.

That whole situation is littered with so many mistakes that when I think about it I laugh, that girl from the past is on facebook and she is getting married in 3 days she has put on so much weight she looks horrible and in a nasty way it made me feel good lol. Anyway gone off on a tangent, dude any woman who doesn't show non friendly interest must be discarded as they will literally drain you of your emotions, I know the feeling you like hanging with the girls and everything feels great but friendzone is bullshit better to let her go and crack on with your life.
The longer you have known them the worse it will be.

Alatheia