[img]Hey whats up fellas, this is the first time ive ever gotten into forum chat of any type but I have been researching the world of PUA's for about a year now and im really diggin it. Im a 20 year old college student, im in a fraternity, and Im pretty good with the ladies and I do attribute a lot of it to Mystery. I get laid quite a bit, but i dunno if its because of the fact that i am constantly surrounded by drunk and hot girls or its because what I am actually saying to girls works?

I use openers and look for IOIs and what not but i feel like when i get into a convo with girls i really have no set plan, i just kinda go with the flow and try to make myself sound like an interesting person and demonstrate value. I use negs when necessary but other than that i feel like im not being technical enough. Regaurdless I still get laid but I want to get to the point where i can simple walk into a room, pick out a target and bed her. Where should i start?

OH and if there are any experienced PUAs in the columbia missouri are willing to give me some advice it would be awesome. And if all goes well I wouldnt mind winging every once in a while


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You're off to a great start and you don't seem to have any major issues, but bear in mind that your ego can be the greatest hindering factor in your development as a PUA, as with any other discipline in life.

A master at this art has options and says no more than he says yes. You should acknowledge the fact that it wouldn't be worth your time to bed any and every girl you find physically attractive. The best of the best in this community screen and qualify more than anything else, and they know what they want, what they are looking for. Yes, that means a lot of mPUAs approach women they find initially attractive, but intentionally do not progress the pickup further because they recognize that they've got bigger and better fish to fry.

With that said, for you I would recommend putting more effort toward following an Outer Game model, such as Mystery Method (since you are already familiar with it...but realize that there are plenty more out there, and other Outer Game models may suit your preferences and personality better). If you weren't already aware, the Mystery Method follows a specific step-by-step guideline known as the M3 model. A1, A2, A3, C1, C2, C3, S1, S2, S3. Let that be your guide for now (unless you choose to follow a different model), and don't skip phases. Follow it linearly.

Here's what's most likely going to happen when you do this: your game will actually get worse temporarily. It's going to throw off your natural rhythm for a while. However, in the long run, your game is going to get tight as hell.

I would also highly recommend looking into the other available models out there so you can feel out which one would be best suited to your liking. If I were you, I'd start looking into Mehow's model, Gunwitch Method, and perhaps RSD's concept of just pumping buying temperature and closing.

If you want to avoid as much of the "getting thrown off your natural rhythm" as possible, check out this book titled "The Zen of Meeting Women" by Max Weiss. Zen's method runs very smoothly, but it isn't as "hardcore" and result-oriented as the others ones are.

Welcome to PUAF.

Hey thanks a lot i appreciate the help, yea I can see how my ego would get me cause while I still know rejection shouldnt be a huge deal, it REAAAALLY pisses me off.

to be honest i didnt bother reading what you had to say but if your getting laid then why are you doubting your a pua? WHATS your goals? here im going to make this easier YOUR one of the best PUA. hahha

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I'm having the same problem at the moment (only without the frequency of lays). I can run game and I know the basics but when I'm in the field it's difficult to analyse the progress and still think of new threads/routines etc.

I think Mystery talks about this and says that with repetition and practice you'll be able to run game and monitor your progress along A1 to S3 subconciously. Just like learning a new sport or trick, you actions seem wooden and forces at the begining but with time muscle memory is created and it flows better.

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