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 Post subject: Need advice
PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 3:26 am 
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I'm still learning. I'm still an "AFC". I know I'm a good looking guy, I have an athletic build and girls look my way. I always get shy and never approach a woman because I can never think of a routine, or truth is I have fear. I am a very funny person and I make the girls laugh that I know,but it's the butterflies that I get when I want to approach a stranger. I know I'm going to overcome this when I read further into "The Game",but in the meantime can some of you kind gentleman give me some advice on how you over came the fears that I have.

Do note: I have approached and hung in there but always end up walking away when I don't have anything more to say. I lose confidence when I can't think of anything to say. I always seem to be the one talking and I'm not opening it up for them. I seem to go off into a tangent out of nervousness which is a sign that I'm giving off what I'll say false confidence.

Thank you in advance my fellow brothers! ;-)

---Bricool5


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 4:26 pm 
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I'll tell you one thing.
"The Game" by Neil Strauss is more a story than PUA training.
Everybody reads "The Game"... but it's not the end-all of books.
It's not even training oriented... it just tells his story,
will some emphasis on the skills.

I'm surprised at the amount of people who got into this because of "The Game".
I had already gone through tons of David Deangelo's material,
read Mystery's Venusian Handbook, Juggler's book, and touched on Ross Jeffries,
before I even thought about reading Neil Strauss's book.
This book is far bigger than I thought.

At either rate, welcome to the forum.
Try to check out most of the other posts on here, there's alot of good info.
Then feel free to ask questions.

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 Post subject: Re: Need advice
PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 7:09 pm 
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Yeah, so I never addressed the actual concerns you had in this post.
My bad. :lol:

About approach anxiety:
The best you can do is just get out there and approach.
If you have to, start with girls that aren't even that pretty.

Start saying "Hi" to everybody you walk past.
Try holding eye contact with somebody when you walk by, instead of glancing quickly, then looking away.
All very little things, but they break down the mental barriers.

Having pre-conceived material for openers helps.
Take a look at some of the other stuff around the forum.


As for running out of things to talk about.
Slai (one of the guys on here) said something about keeping a cheat sheet in your phone.
Set up a quick to access note on your phone, and act like you're getting a text.


Lastly, I suggest checking out this post:
http://pick-up-artist-forum.com/transce ... t1991.html

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:10 am 
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Hey bricool,

I'm a little over a month into all this so I can really relate to where you are. I got started on David DeAnglo's Double Your Dating which really helped raise my confidence levels.

Some of the things that really gave me dramatic results were:

-making eye contact with a girl and holding it until she breaks it. POWERFUL. I couldn't believe the results of doing just that one simple thing. I had one girl come up to me about 5 mins later and give me her business card without my ever having said anything to her. I had girls that were clearly with their boyfriends hold my gaze and smile at me.

-Body language. Slow down and control your movements. If you fidget, stop yourself. Walk tall and keep good posture. Talk slowly. Stop grinning like an idiot everytime you see a hot girl. Believe that you are the shit (I find it tough to maintain this, but I keep telling myself everyday).

This all made a huge difference for me confidence wise.

Then, I really made strides on New Years getting over my approach anxiety. I went around to several bars with a pad of paper and asked every girl I could see their best moments of 2006 (and of course, their email addresses). By the end of the night I didn't think twice about talking to hot girls.

The trick so far has been maintaining my confidence but I have that experience as proof to myself that I can successfully talk to girls.

Also, I just downloaded Mystery's e-book. Oh my god. It's brilliant and explains every step between where you are now and where you want to be. I'd suggest getting that.


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