I'd like to start out by saying that I am by no means calling anyone out on anything. It just seems to me that some of the things said here are nothing more than a glorified pickup line not unlike "did it hurt....when you fell from heaven" or something equally as lame. I stumbled upon this forum on accident, but stuck around and sifted through the newbie questions and the FAQ, and while there are some good things on there I can't help but feel that some of it would just ocme off as cheesy, a bit creepy and only works in theory. That being said, i'm gonna stick around and at least give this a try, but just wanted to see what everyone else's thoughts on this were.

Hi Windrider

Of course as you know there are so many routines and openers out there designed to hook women, you will read as much as you can and some will appeal and some wont, which is natural. My advice take what you have read and liked and keep it (after all a lot of this has been proven to have worked) and the stuff your not so sure about have fun with and adapt. I think a big part of the seduction process is not what your saying but how you say it, so you have to be enthusiastic about your routines, its your enthusisam that should hook and hold a targets interest.

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Wow, that trough me off, how much sense that made. I never thought of it that way. As soon as i grow the balls to try it i'll let you all know if it works out fine!

Keep me posted Windrider, and good luck fella

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