Ok so I'm 100% new to this and open to suggestions as of yesterday. I'm going to go off of the original newbie topic and say everything it suggested. I'm from North Attleboro Massachusetts not that i expect anyone to know where that is, I'm 23, I learned of the community from reading The Game: Penetrating the secret society of pickup artists by Neil Strauss A.K.A. Style, I haven't used any pick up tricks per say but I am by no means a virgin, for hobbies I like playing tackle football working out though I've been slacking as of late and smoking weed, my goals are to get over my fear of approaching females i don't know in person (I'm good online but in person is trickier) also to gain the confidence I've always wanted and to be able to surpass the beauty of a woman without being awkward about it, also to be able to change my normal women of 6-8 to 8-11, and my back story is when i was younger I didn't have much luck but by the time I hit 16 I was lucky enough to get laid and its happened several time probably three to four 6-8 ranked chicks in my book but mostly just w.e. i could get my dick wet with. I'm looking for any suggestions I feel dedicated to this and after the stories I've read so far its helpful in more than one way usually so does anyone have tips for me or need more info to give tip

Great position you're in buddy. You haven't developed any bad habits or limiting beliefs about PU. Plus you get laid pretty well, the average guy has about 5 sexual partners in his entire life surprisingly. He's not a PUA of course.

There is a bunch of bad info out there. Honestly the best thing I've seen is to created your own natural system. I take a Bruce Lee philosophy to PU. Don't just study one system taking everything the "guru" says as law.

You can consider this forum to be a Mastermind Group of Guru's and noobs alike. Some new guys have amazing theories also so don't discount people just because they don't have a heavy name. Of course things have to be tested. I suggest since you're new just grab a bunch of field tested information to create yourself a unique natural framework. Some advice on here is terrible, and there are a bunch of depressed dudes on here. Don't read too many of their posts you can point them out because they complain relentlessly. There is no reason a person should be hanging around a mastermind group complaining.

Here is a lesson on keeping a conversation going forever. Read my post in this thread: hello-guys-vt179056.html


If it's not natural talking like that practice it a few times even holding a conversation with yourself is fine, eventually it will be second nature.

Ok, take that new skill you've just learned and develop a natural framework. Fill it in with stuff you find on here.

Here is a basic one:

Approach/open(light kino optional) - have her invest/qualify herself to you (light kino) - build comfort/rapport (mid kino) - Close (number, instant date)

Then go on here and look over advice on texting and pick what you find the most fun to test out. Employ your texting game (or phone conversation game if you want to do that) and set up the date ASAP

Look for advice on dates (pick the thing you like best)

Look for advice on how to get a kiss

Look for advice on how to get a woman isolated in a place you can have sex.

Look for advice on how to prevent and overcome LMR

Look for advice on how to manage having an abundance of women in your life/managing a one woman relationship.

Answers to each piece of that puzzle can be found here for free. Use the search feature to find out about each topic I gave you, and pick out stuff you find hilarious or powerful.

A more advanced but still basic framework

pre approach - Approach/open(light kino optional) - have her invest/qualify herself to you (light kino) - build comfort/rapport (mid kino) - Close (number, instant date)

I suggest after you develop your own personal system that you practice practice practice, then look for better skills to fill each section.

The natural framework will allow you to never run out of talking points and have confidence in any situation. If you choose to do this can you do me a favor? I want to see what you create. PM me your completed framework (i don't care how long the PM is tell the whole story). I'll look over it and clean it up and streamline it for you.

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