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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 6:16 pm 
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Hey chaps, my name is Luke and I am 29 years old. I reside in a small town called Stowmarket in Suffolk, England which isn't ideal for persuing the art of picking up women but do frequent bigger towns/cities on a regular basis. Am a graphic designer by trade, I enjoy many hobbies including stage managing amateur dramatic productions, bass player in two bands and cigar/pipe smoking enthusiast.

Let's just talk about a little about why I am here (imagine clouds in the sky, singing birds in the trees... ahem) I broke up from my girlfriend of 3 years back in May 2013. Since then, I have been lucky to have attracted many women but have been friend-zoned a lot. I did have a fling with a friends friend a year ago but that fizzled out.

I have battled my self esteem a lot too over the last year and a half, inner demons etc etc... I am so much more confident and have made great friends along the way. Dates kept cropping up every so often (either from online dating / approaching women to my standards within the am dram circuit) but only one-time dates... either I wasn't interested taking it forward or they weren't. Felt like recent dates especially had been friend-zoning me! A close friend is in a similar position and had decided enough is enough. We are both dedicated to change our perception on the dating world and the way we approach women.

He stumbled across various Kezia Noble videos which has helped a great deal... a lot of stuff I already know but certain attributes I had to change, like intimacy... I am good at verbally flirting and teasing the ladies, but physical contact I need to work on a bit.

After a bit more research I found out more and more about the PUA community. There is a lot to learn / stuff I already know. Stumbled across this forum a couple of days ago and thought 'yip, ought to join up and converse with people who know 'the game' (which I have never read LOL)

Be good getting to know you fine gentlemen! Over n out...


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 6:42 pm 
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Hey chaps, my name is Luke and I am 29 years old. I reside in a small town called Stowmarket in Suffolk, England which isn't ideal for persuing the art of picking up women but do frequent bigger towns/cities on a regular basis. Am a graphic designer by trade, I enjoy many hobbies including stage managing amateur dramatic productions, bass player in two bands and cigar/pipe smoking enthusiast.

Let's just talk about a little about why I am here (imagine clouds in the sky, singing birds in the trees... ahem) I broke up from my girlfriend of 3 years back in May 2013. Since then, I have been lucky to have attracted many women but have been friend-zoned a lot. I did have a fling with a friends friend a year ago but that fizzled out.

I have battled my self esteem a lot too over the last year and a half, inner demons etc etc... I am so much more confident and have made great friends along the way. Dates kept cropping up every so often (either from online dating / approaching women to my standards within the am dram circuit) but only one-time dates... either I wasn't interested taking it forward or they weren't. Felt like recent dates especially had been friend-zoning me! A close friend is in a similar position and had decided enough is enough. We are both dedicated to change our perception on the dating world and the way we approach women.

He stumbled across various Kezia Noble videos which has helped a great deal... a lot of stuff I already know but certain attributes I had to change, like intimacy... I am good at verbally flirting and teasing the ladies, but physical contact I need to work on a bit.

After a bit more research I found out more and more about the PUA community. There is a lot to learn / stuff I already know. Stumbled across this forum a couple of days ago and thought 'yip, ought to join up and converse with people who know 'the game' (which I have never read LOL)

Be good getting to know you fine gentlemen! Over n out...
Good stuff man, welcome.

Kezia Noble will get you the absolute most fundamental basics and that's it. There are much better people out there. She's popular cause she has great tits and guys think "well who better to guide me on beautiful woman than a beautiful woman" and that's not a good way to go about it.

Go on youtube, watch some in-field videos by a variety of PUA's and get a feel for what they are doing and go out and practice.

It sounds like you mostly need to work on getting physical faster, which is good news for you because in general once you break down that wall in your head where you think it's odd to be touching someone you just met after only talking for a few minutes, you have few road blocks after that IMO.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 7:05 pm 
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Welcome.

Without knowing your actual issues - if you're perpetually getting friendzoned, try being a little more mysterious.

Don't give everything away so quickly.

Don't tell girls you like them or are interested in them... Show them instead.

Kino/escalation and touching are SO important to your game, too... Start touching soon and often (benign stuff... nothing creepy).

Good luck, looking forward to seeing you post on the forum.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 8:41 pm 
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Cheers dudes!

Well Saturday I plan to do a bit of day gaming by myself whilst crimbo shopping. Just got to keep telling myself I can do it, I know I can cause I am an outgoing kinda guy!

Yeah, the physical flirting does need some work... strange that I have been involved in amateur dramatics for seven years and never picked it up subconsciously. I have looked into it and does seem rather ijit proof!

Mysterious... bang on need to work at that! I will try and hold back on a few things.. I do tend to turn into an excited puppy peeing all over the rug when the owner comes back when speaking to the opposite sex - Naivety? Social awkwardness?? I hope it isn't!


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Hey chaps, my name is Luke and I am 29 years old. I reside in a small town called Stowmarket in Suffolk, England which isn't ideal for persuing the art of picking up women but do frequent bigger towns/cities on a regular basis. Am a graphic designer by trade, I enjoy many hobbies including stage managing amateur dramatic productions, bass player in two bands and cigar/pipe smoking enthusiast.

Let's just talk about a little about why I am here (imagine clouds in the sky, singing birds in the trees... ahem) I broke up from my girlfriend of 3 years back in May 2013. Since then, I have been lucky to have attracted many women but have been friend-zoned a lot. I did have a fling with a friends friend a year ago but that fizzled out.

I have battled my self esteem a lot too over the last year and a half, inner demons etc etc... I am so much more confident and have made great friends along the way. Dates kept cropping up every so often (either from online dating / approaching women to my standards within the am dram circuit) but only one-time dates... either I wasn't interested taking it forward or they weren't. Felt like recent dates especially had been friend-zoning me! A close friend is in a similar position and had decided enough is enough. We are both dedicated to change our perception on the dating world and the way we approach women.

He stumbled across various Kezia Noble videos which has helped a great deal... a lot of stuff I already know but certain attributes I had to change, like intimacy... I am good at verbally flirting and teasing the ladies, but physical contact I need to work on a bit.

After a bit more research I found out more and more about the PUA community. There is a lot to learn / stuff I already know. Stumbled across this forum a couple of days ago and thought 'yip, ought to join up and converse with people who know 'the game' (which I have never read LOL)

Be good getting to know you fine gentlemen! Over n out...
awesome dude - btw "the game" is an amazing book, more for a good read than actual learning though.

being friendzoned can be good if you look at it the right way. a lot of guys thinks its bad because they like that girl. but if detach yourself from that you can get that girl to introduce you to her friends and they will think you are awesome because of social proof.

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Sit right next to the girls when you are out with them. Go kino right from the start of your first approach so she knows which "bin" to put you in : i.e. not the friend bin.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 4:48 pm 
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I'm in the same boat. Been told "I'm a great guy" and tired of it! What is kino so you don't get placed in friend zone?


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Sit right next to the girls when you are out with them. Go kino right from the start of your first approach so she knows which "bin" to put you in : i.e. not the friend bin.
What is kino?


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Kino = Touching!!


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