Hello everyone,

quick summary about me .

I'm from MI. I'm currently 25 . When i was 18 I fell madly love in with a woman that I could not have, it was the worst feeling ive ever had. Her last words were "girls don't like shy guys" those words crushed me. What followed was a few years of depression not just because of the girl but from life in general. Sure life is not perfect but i don't complain because other people have it way worse then I do ; the only problem in my life is women. I've never been on a single date in my life for the following reasons:

1) The main reason is i always feel empty like there's no purpose in life . this feeling makes me not talkative, not interested in life(everything seems boring)
2) low confidence (how many times have i seen a beautiful girl and didn't approach because i was thinking too much or didnt know what to say)
3) I'm very picky i wont settle for less because I kno i deserve a good girl i won't give up and settle for less.
4) Ive read a lot about the psychology of woman and understanding attraction .my only problem is that I don't apply it.

Im not very tall (5' 4") but thats ok im sure theres plenty of amazing girls my height im not worried about. I'm not a model but im not ugly either . I workout and take care of myself (fashion,grooming)

SO as i write this, just the thought of wanting to change is making that empty lifeless feeling go away.

questions:

1) I can get past the approach anxiety im past that stage. My current problem is not talking or not knowing what questions to ask. Can anyone link me to a great thread on approaching and questions to ask when approaching and when going on dates? I CAN'T do canned routines it just doesnt feel right and she'll know im faking it.

2) I plan on moving to florida close to miami. Is there a small PUA group that I might be able to meet and work with?

3) Is there a PUA group in michigan that I currently go out with?

I feel good about this and hope this time things will change for me.

Completely agree! Bro you need to set short term and long term goals. It seems like you down man. I tell my boys first thing you do is make sure your car is clean. Then make sure your apartment or house is clean. The last an most important clean is making sure your diet is Clean! Though in some goals about body fat or gaining a .5in on the arms.

Miami's a great place to be in this game. Go situational. You see a girl. You comment on what is going on in the immediate vicinity. You see how she reacts. You give her info about yourself and get info about her. You say "you seem cool lets continue this sometime" and take her number or pull her for an instant date.

That's all there is to it. Don't get bogged down in all the PUA lingo and bullshit. Confidence is the name of the game. If you are not continually looking forward to a better future it will seriously hinder your results in this game. You need an optimistic attitude.

You don't need PUA groups - but they won't hurt... Will give you some wings at least.

You may be better off going out with buddies - you'll be more comfortable and relaxed.

Good that you're past AA -- That's the first step.

If you're not a social butterfly, try Tinder or an online app... They're great for 'learning' to socialize (to a point... they are NOT a substitute for in-person conversations... but they'll certainly help you learn what to say and how to carry on conversations -- ie: what to ask, what to talk about).

Good luck and congrats on wanting to make a change.

I will. Its very simple I know what I want. I'm fine with just meeting one girl and having a relationship or meeting multiple girls. I would go either way depends on the situation. Thank you for the advice


Thank you for the advice.
you are the MAN perfect just what I needed to hear . You know I'm going out tonight to this bar/club lots of beautiful latinas and their very friendly , playful. I'll try to apply that and hopefully no aa.


yes I have plenty of experience online . usually its hard to get conversations started but once theres a connection we can talk all night im sure its the same in person. I have to focus more on what im saying and why im saying it and the effect its having on the girl . I don't want to randomly talk about bullshit.