I had never even heard of PUA techniques until recently. Anyway. I figured I would check out the community. Online dating has made me fat and lazy. However, it is hard to argue with its effectiveness. Even so, does anybody else still prefer the bar?

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Bar stats:

ONS: 200 plus
Threesomes: 10 plus

Bars and online are not comparable. Bars are social. They are where you learn and practice. It is the skill set you get from doing approaches that you use when on dates. When I was totally clueless, I'd get online dates with lower quality woman and still blow it because I knew nothing. Besides, in a bar you can just walk up and talk to girls that aren't online and are hot so they would be flooded with msgs. Cold approach is boss.

If you bring a date with you, you greatly increase your chances of success versus a cold approach. Also, you do not have to contend with friends, girlfriends, or other guys trying to distract her. I know from example, my friend was a terrible wing man...he would never pick up from the bar. Anyway, he started online dating and was banging girls 4 times a week sometimes...nice ones too...ones that he could never pick up from a cold approach. He had a great system though, with steps to follow leading up to the date. I was impressed...he was more successful than I was when it came to online dating.

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Bar stats:

ONS: 200 plus
Threesomes: 10 plus

Are looking at lay count or developing your game? Bars are harder, period. But if you get good them, then your world opens up. You are better with woman in general. You learn how to approach an HB9.5 at Starbucks by banging lonely girls you find on line. You want a wet hole, then sit in your underwear, msg some pofers, and go. You want to develop a kickass mindset and Jedi confidence... well, you are going to have to leave the house and do some actual work.

I disagree entirely. Online dating will give you more confidence with women because during the initial meeting you cannot be drunk...and more importantly she will not be drunk either.
Drunk game will give you ZERO confidence in the real world no matter how many women you score with. You are drunk, they are drunk...you can get away with things you could NEVER pull off otherwise. I have seen the in field stuff and honestly I don't see what the big deal is...I mean closing with a phone number or a kiss in a bar? We call that a fail. She is blowing you off while going home with some other guy who ACTUALLY PICKS HER UP.

A friend of mine who is a master at the bar has triple digit ONS under his belt. I recall one time he was having drinks with me before I had a pof date...then she showed up early so he was introduced. During our date she asked me to invite him out as well...HE ended up getting MY date to come home with us for some 2 on 1 action. He has pulled other 2 on 1's with me...not to mention threesomes for himself. All of the action I got from the bar was from being in his wake. Heck I have even seen him approach and OPEN with a direct proposition for an fclose and had success on more than one occasion...that takes speed attraction to a whole other stratosphere. He is nothing much to look at either...dresses average with a beer belly to boot.
BUT even with all his success with drunk game, he would be the first to admit that day game is the real art...and the only thing that will give you confidence in day game is doing day game.
He should know since he has managed to fclose during day game.

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Bar stats:

ONS: 200 plus
Threesomes: 10 plus

Yooooo dipshit are you asking or just trying to defend your false ass beliefs?
Cause guess fucking what, there's a better way than both or either or, and it's painfully obvious. It's called, do online dating when your at home and have fuck all to do, go to the bar when YOU feel like going out or when your friends do, approach cute girls when your out and about shopping or w/e during the day, hang out with friends, meet your friends' friends (and they're sexy friends), become a very fun and valuable (knows cool people that want to hang out with you), go to parties, and date. And lastly, fuck!

Looook I'm still a virgin dawg but it is soooooooo fucking obvious that the most effective way to get the most/hottest/best girl(s) is to combine all that shit.

All this pua stuff is based on human sociology taught in any university...status in the tribe...pre selection, the selfish gene...etc...if you are picking up women you are using it already...for instance, you don't have to learn how to read body language anymore than a woman needs to learn how to display it...it is hard wired in us...that's the whole point. If she is interested in you, she will display that and you will feed off it subconsciously. IF you are faking confidence based on some techniques then she will know this...women can figure this shit out in a split second. You need to go out there and get destroyed before you start to build up confidence...and the only confidence you need is to not care about being rejected. Once you have that mindset then you can hone your technique.

"Hey there...I know I'm not much to look at, but I think you are totally hot and wanted to tell you that."

You take this approach with confidence and it can work very well. You waiver with your confidence in the delivery...even for a second and you will bomb. You can basically say almost anything as long as you say it with confidence...I know this is standard pua thinking...but my point is you can't fake it with technique. You genuinely have to NOT CARE if she rejects you...enjoy it even...bombing actually makes for a way better story than success does. Not to mention it is great recovery practice.

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Bar stats:

ONS: 200 plus
Threesomes: 10 plus