Hey everyone, let me introduce myself. My name is Tony, My Alias will be Casanova from here and on. I grew up with religion all throughout my life and up to this day. I now know that religion has kept me back and kept me from my true potential. I am 35 yrs old I've only slept with two babes and they weren't above an HB5. I am also not about to drop my standards just to get laid, either. Nightmares happen when you do that and believe me, I've had them. Anyways, I definitely need help with approach anxiety and talking to the HB's above 7. I usually get an nervous breakdown and breakout into sweats. Any constructive help will help. BTW I am in Ventura County lika an hour away from Sunsent Boulevard.

I recently read "The Game," by Style aka Neil Strauss and just started 15 steps to becoming a Master Seducer by Kezia Noble. I figure I'd first get a guy's perspective and then a Woman's.

Hit me up fellas, I'm open to opinions and suggestions.

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The only way you can reduce the fear of AA is to APPROACH girls. Its like the first time you ride a roller-coaster...the first time is scary, but every time you ride one, it gets a little easier!

OF COURSE there IS an alternative..buy a large battery....like a car battery. Then, whenever you do not approach a girl, drive right home and put one wire on the positive end of the battery, and one end on the negative end..THEN stick them to your ball sack. That is what you get for being a little bitch!

Yo, the reason I joined this forum was and continues to be for positive reinforcement. Hence, (positive)!
Did not join go get slightly helpful advice and then have my balls busted by some prick who has hasn't mastered his game, 'cause Why would he be a part of the forum if he's a master?
This goes for everyone else, If you got nothing good to say I'd rather not hear any advice from you. I don't need any negative feedback. You apparently still have unresolved issues to take care of.

Some may relate with me and some may not. At some point in your lives you all were here where I'm at.

Maybe I forgot to ask a specific question.
My questions are,
1. Are there any Semi-master seducer's in the Ventura County area who can take me under their wing for a night or two?
2. HB 5 I can approach HB 6 I can still do but never phone close or kiss close, hesitation kicks in. HB 7 through 9 I simply get tongue tied and although I've heard great openers they don't always go as planned. I tend to focus on their beauty or sometimes over think. Are there any on the field techniques to get past over-thinking random thoughts?

I'm open to any and techniques to help overcome this.

3. We all go to the store. Sometimes we spot a cute HB 8 at the checkout sometimes it's the young bag associates at the grocery store. What are some things I can say to make her/them laugh out-loud hysterically that have worked for you in the past?

One last thing, If you're going to rag on me for poor confidence, FUCK YOU and FUCK OFF!
If you decide to do the push/pull, Good advice and then lash me for not being you, Again FUCK YOU and FUCK OFF!
If you're not here to help in any constructive way, Go fuck yourself you ungrateful bastard. You got help when you needed it. Why can't you do the same?

BTW I'm not lashing out on everyone who may want to offer great advice, suggestions or opinions because of the first responder to my first post. I've read other posts and have found some cock-blockers, haters, and even reply's by women posing as men. How can I tell? Just the way they lash-out in their responses. This is supposed to be a Community regardless of age, a community to help a brother, a place for refuge and counsel. Instead this sometimes feel prison-like, good & evil.

Another reason I decided to seek this seduction is, I want to have seduction success in all aspects of my life. Social, religion, community, business/sales/marketing/Supervision. I consider myself a Jack of most Trades. I'm hoping to change it to Jack of all Trades as soon as I Master Seduction. So, I am truly looking for real knowledge from those of you who rank yourselves as worthy to be called "YODA."

Thank You!

Giacomo

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@Stankwagon What was that good for? This attitude is not welcomed in this community. The guy came here for advice and without any reason you started busting his balls. Get your shit together, bro. We're supposed to be here to help each other, not troll. There's a website called 4chan, I think you would feel like you're home there more than here.

@OP

First, welcome to the community. I'd like to point out that it's not true that the forum doesn't have any "masters". There are a couple of guys here with really solid game, and the sole reason they are still here is to give the community back, what they have received. In other words, help the newbies like you. And now to get to your problem.

Stankwagon, as offensive as his comment was, did make a point. The only way you'll ever come over your approach anxiety is by approaching. First of all though, let me diminish this limiting belief. There are no 5s, no 6s, no 9s, and no 10s. You need only two groups for cathegorizing women. First group: Women I want to get to know. And second group: Women I don't want to get to know. Anything other than this will just make you overthink, put them on pedestals, and ruin your game. At fist, don't try to game them. Just have a casual conversation with them, and you will see that they don't bite. There's nothing to fear. They are just people too. Sometimes nice people, other times not so nice, that's not the point though. You need to learn that beauty is not something that should confuse, or intimidate you, because the goal of your journey is to find real quality women, who are not only beautiful, but are also people who are worthy of your time to be with. And you can only find out about their personalities by talking to them.

I see you've read up a bit on openers and you feel that they sometimes go "off track". The thing with openers is that because every girl is different, it is highly unlikely that you will get the response you expect. That's why you need to approach a lot, to practise. I don't recommend you to use too much canned material, because then you will easily run into the problem of running out of things to say. Something you want to avoid. Even if your opener is planned, you should then focus on genuinely getting to know the person you're talking to. Whether it's a nerdy looking guy, or a beautiful model. Of course you won't flirt with the nerdy guy, lol.

With cute cashiers and things like that, I usually start with an opener like "I want to buy something nice for my sister's birthday. Can you recommend me something?" This is a very easy way to start the conversation because it is casual. It is hard to suggest something to get something prepared to make them laugh. Because best humour is spontanous humour. I suggest you to watch some stand-up comedies and listen to other guys with a good sense of humour. You should focus on trying to catch on not really what they are saying, but rather how they deliver what they are saying because that's what makes it funny most of the time. I will give you a very simple example to help you understand what I'm talking about. This happened a few weeks ago, when I was at the bookstore, searching for an X-mas present for my girlfriend. Of course I can't remember the entire conversation word by word, but I'm trying to recall it as closely as I can.
Anyway, the entire story was some BS I made up there, and I didn't spend much more time with this girl because, well, because I have a girlfriend and I'm loyal. I hope you get the point, though.

I don't know about that Ventura County area though. You should seek the PUA lairs section for something like that. I doubt I live near that, since I live in Hungary.

Good luck, mate! If you need an advice, you can hit me up with a PM, though I won't give you "routines" because I'm strongly against them. I think they are only good for getting laid, but not real progress, and when it comes to relationships, well you won't have an infinite number of routines, so you're pretty much screwed.

Peace,

In$tinct.

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I actually recommend the opposite of what instinct says as far as canned material. If you are a beginner, use it. You can transition away from it later.

Learn three or four canned material pieces cold, you need two openers, and two follow up stories. Again, know them cold, but don't make them too rehearsed. Think of her possible responses too. The advantage of canned material is that it gives you something good to say, something good to jumpstart a natural conversation.

This is how I started, and I should put a disclaimer on it, I also had the problem of running out of things to say.

I like to also have a few prepared conversation questions for girls when I feel I am in the comfort stage about these topics:
-Childhood (Good or Bad)
-High School/College life
-Traveling (Talk about where you have been recently, or where she wants to go)
- Planning (Does she do things spontaneously or have her schedule very planned)
-Adventures (ask her the craziest adventure she's been on... when she asks about yours, tell her your "third" most adventurous, this comes off as very playful.)
-Future (career, etc.)
-Relationships (all the intricacies, you should be well versed in it if you are in pick up... think about it from a female perspective though.)
-Spirituality (Dreams, Meditation, Deja Vu, anything unnatural... girls LOVE this, try to avoid religion though)



Be able to talk about these things, and you will be surprised how often it comes up. You need to carry the conversation if necessary.

A few things to think about-
Looks (Workout, eat healthy, wash face twice a day, get new stylish clothes)
Body Language ( Legs and arms wider, slower walk, slower movements)
Voice (deeper, louder, more pauses)



You need to know that it is possible to turn this all around VERY quickly. I went from a 21 year old virgin 10 months ago to getting 10 lays and a lot more makeouts. I am now seeing four girls at once, and I am talking 9s, and 10s. You can change fast my friend. In 2013, I went from hopeless to boss. YOU'VE GOT THIS.

Well, I guess then it's different for everyone. I feel like I only wasted time, when I was using canned material. No results whatsoever. Got a girlfriend, but incidently, that just sort of happened, and I didn't use any canned material, nor did I have the intention to game that night. So okay, I will take back what I harshly said about canned game. Try it out to build some confidence in the beginning, and get you started, but I still suggest that you drop it once in a while to see where you actually stand, and try to leave it ASAP. Other than that, I agree with fishnwomen about his advice.

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Thanks fellas for the advice. I needed true knowledge.

Both of your commentary is good. From my perspective any advice is great advice, so as long as it is positive! Also you don't grow if you get your info from one source. I welcome all. I will try this later tonight.

BTW Any books or websites with great material you might recommend?

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dont forget to go with the nut shock therapy if you puss out...works like a charm!

Mate, don't get too coped up with reading all kinds of materials. Read one thing, learn to apply it, and only then follow up with the next one. Otherwise your mind will be full of practically useless information. Best learning source is the field itself. Right now you have read The Game. So why don't you just go out, and try what you learned from that?

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