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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 10:23 pm 
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Hey everyone, I'm new to this forum. I live in the Northwest; various places in MT ID and WA but lived in Southern CA for a few years. 29 years old, MS in Clinical Health Science (PA). I actually got into "the game" when I started listening to The Tom Leykis show. And although he is not a PUA, he has a lot of knowledge in this area. He is a little less tactful but shares many of the same principles of PUA's. For those who don't know Tom Leykis, he's a shock jock radio men's talk show host; most women find him extremely offensive.
I also came across the book "The Game", which I read. I found it so fascinating I looked into the community a little and started listening to and following David DeAngelo. This was about the time I moved to WA for Grad school (Seattle/Spokane). I started going out to the nightlife venues and applied a lot of Style and David D's techniques. I immediately had success and hooked up with one of the girls that I met. Been with her for 3 years now, so I haven't been a full blown PUA. But would like to get a little more involved at this point (I'm taking a little space from the girlfriend).
I've been practicing Pickup before I started studying it; probably ~7 years. And studying it lightly for maybe 4 years. Methods that I use are heavily influenced by David D, Style, and Tom Leykis and the PUA community in general.
I have many hobbies and passions; lots of outdoor activities as I am from the Northwest. Sociology/psychology/medicine-went to school for this. I have an insatiable appetite for skills and knowledge.
My goals are to gain PUA skills to get the cream of the crop-HB8-10. I also understand that PUA principles and skills can be applied to many different situations in life such as business and politics.
Fortunately I'm a really good looking guy, so I'm sure that has something to do with my success (I've been fairly successful with pickup for not being totally dedicated to the art). I'd say I am somewhat introverted so I have a lot of success at places other than bars and clubs ie. coffee shops, book stores, laundromats, grocery stores, retail stores, etc. Busy, loud, crowded bars/clubs, in my experience, are lousy places to pickup. Its difficult to make a connection with all the bustle. Plus, most women are on the defense and have their walls up, as there is so much competition. Maybe this is just how I justify not being great at busy clubs. But I'm almost certain that (in my area at least) almost all guys at bars go home alone with nothing to show. I find Monday-Thursday the best nights to sarge so if I do go out for the sole purpose of sargeing, these are the nights I do it.
Does anyone else agree about busy clubs and bars? This is one area that I could improve. I feel quite deficient here. I'm a natural when I'm not at bars/clubs and somewhat uncomfortable when at these places. Does anyone have any input?


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 10:44 pm 
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If your good looking then clubs should favor you, just try to be more physically confident and aggressive and don't depend on your mouthpiece.

Bars are different, if your sarging alone you are behind the bartender, their friends, their friend of friends, the waiter, regulars, guys who know the bartender and waiter, and the guys that are there with their friends and being the leader. So you are the lowest guy on the bar social totem pole, thats likely your issue there. either learn how to generate some value or stick to random serendipity daygame


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 2:59 am 
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Yea I get that I must generate value but that is so hard when I'm at loud busy clubs. I'm not a loud extroverted spaz and its hard to overcome these types when you're the calm and smooth type. And I understand that the dance scene is what chicks like but dancing is just soooo gay. Especially in the US.


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