Hi!

First of all, I've been lurking for quite some time and I have to tell you that the amount of experienced PUAs on here is outstanding!

I'm currently reading The Game by Neil Strauss aka Style, and its an eye opener for sure.

Unfortunately haven't had a full close with any women yet, even before I got into PUA. However I've had quite a few women hinting towards it but I was too much of a beta to do anything sexually.

My problem is that I'm having trouble approaching women, handing out negs as well as closing. You could say that i'm a total noob.

However I'm looking to change that. I go to the gym and train religiously, and people are starting to notice my results. So I suppose that's a plus.

I would really appreciate it if you guys could share some of your own experiences and/or give me a few tips in order to help me feel more comfortable and actually succeeding and eventually becoming a PUA.


Edit: I'm in senior year of High School if that helps.

Hey man,

I just read your post and since i can relate i thought i would hit you up.
I used to have this absolutely crippling AA and I am please to say it is getting a lot better, but it still needs work after years of work... But all you really need is the gratification of the success of small and solid steps foward. Then the reminders will affect your internal dialogue and nullify your limiting mind. You say youre working out which is great to give you something else to levy your spare time against and of course will help you on long winding road of your life!

I am just gonna straight up recommend the 30 day challenge but I know you already know you should read it since is a practical book and rewards you milestone checkpoints... (But finish the game first)

What was last success you were proud of? (Rhetorical)

Happy hunting!

Thanks for the reply!

I understand, A few years ago I could barely speak out loud in class,but it has gotten better. Could you perhaps clarify and maybe give me a few examples of the "small & solid" steps that I need to take? How did you do it?

The 30 day challenge (if you are talking about this one 1-vt87677.html?start=0 ) Seems a bit scary at the moment, but i'm up for it anyways!

Also, how do you talk to the women that are in your class, or your school? You know them a little bit from beforehand so you can't use most of the openers, any tips? I often struggle with what to say ,so the conversation doesn't usually go very far other than small talk.

However, my last success PUA wise would be when I first approached & initiated a conversation with a HB7 who is a year older than I am. The conversation went fine, she smiled a lot and it seemed that she enjoyed my company.

It may not seem like much, but I felt great for the rest of the day!

Not at all... Youre welcome!

Well my HS years were riddled with insecurity and confidence issues. HS can be a rough boat, but often you can only reach fair land by riding stormy tides. Whats more scary tho is if you DONT take control and responsibility for your life!

No man, the 30 day challenge i was referring to is in a book by Style AKA Neil Straus - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Rules-Game-Neil ... 1847672523

Im half way thru it and honestly based on what you said I think it will help you bucket loads. The small and solid is what it is... (I cant quote Neils book, he's a genius) but just approach from the stance that YOU are creating a positive interaction for HER then make like a tree! Dont force an interaction or number close. (I assume this is where you are at?)

I wish someone would have said this to me when I was in HS so Im gonna say this to you right now....
"The place where you are now is the easiest place to FMAC in the entire world."

Think about that. Sleep on it. Tomorrow's a brand new day!

Thanks a lot man! And that's exactly why I'm starting this journey right now. I suppose that you got more confident when you first started, even if you hadn't done much? If thats the case, I feel the same way.

I will definitely buy the 30 day challenge after i'm done with The Game. I read a preview on it and I was amazed on how simple and nicely structured it is.

You're absolutely right about forcing an interaction. I go by the 3 second rule, but I'm having trouble maintain a light, causal "flirty" conversation without it being forced on my part. As mentioned previously I run out of things to say which ruins my game.

How exactly did you start out?

Hey bro,
Yeah Mystery's 3 second rule is bang on the money right? Rye Lee builds on this too, old thread but still cool... about AAE instead of AA.
Link - approach-anticipation-excitement-vt3588 ... Excitement:

Man seriously, dont have trouble, have FUN! If its not going well, get out, done. If you stuggle to maintain or worse you are TRYING to be "flirty" you are basically AFCing. Just be cool and remember women WANT to be opened, they want you to succeed but they CANT help you lead them they want to have a great interaction with you and they want it today! (taken me years to really get this)

Started with DYD, read that?

That is brilliant man! Yeah the 3 second rule is very clever! "Just be cool and remember women WANT to be opened, they want you to succeed but they CANT help you lead them they want to have a great interaction with you and they want it today! " You blew my mind with this, I already feel a lot more confident in opening sets, thanks a lot!

Something funny happened yesterday that I've kind of been beating myself up over. I was walking home from school when I noticed a woman looking at me while walking towards me. Our eyes locked for a good 5 seconds and she kind of slowed down and said "hi". I didn't think that much about it at the time so I just said hi back and kept walking. I realized what i had done a few hundred feet later, and man I felt like an idiot.

Lets say that I had actually stopped and started talking, what would be a good way to lead the conversation into going on a spontaneous "date" or getting her number?


I haven't read DYD, but I really want to after i'm done with The Game.