Hello guys,

My name is Tim and I'm here to learn more about picking up. I live in Holland. I'm not a complete beginner as I've had relationships before. But I have to be honest that I ended up with them by luck. They were the kind of girls (very rare) that took the time to get to know the ''shy guy''. The problem is that the chance of this happening again is very small, and after all I don't want to be chosen. I want to be the one who chooses. So I hope I can learn a lot here!

Hi Holland, I go by Saint. I am new to this site as well stationed in Oklahoma of the us and am in the same boat as you I have been with around 13 ladies and always been the prey and not the predator. if you have not picked it up or downloaded yet there is a book I would like to recommend, its called the game by Neil Strauss A.K.A Style. great book really changed my thought process and gave me a lot of good ideas even ones to help my current relationship. and for future reference never use your real name, just to keep yourself protected. just a friendly suggestion get a sarging name.


sincerely, Saint

I have heard about that book, but I've also heard that the opinions are really divided. For some the book is a holy grail, and for others its nothing more than some other guy's not-so-interesting biography. But I think I'm gonna give it a try anyway.

As an introduction The Game could be viewed as the holy grail but if you want to go beyond the story you need some real material.

Pick up Mystery Method or The Natural. Both are short books with no bullshit. It's just basic guides. Keep in mind you need work on both inner and outer game. Inner first then Outer, should be in tandem so when you see results in the field you should transfer that positive energy to your physical self and take up weights if only at home starting out. You'll get a huge benefit from it.

I've also heard of a book called magic bullets handbook with a bunch of pickup helps like openers. and I do agree the game has a lot of boring biography however if you like reading the story is interesting and it does have a few small pointers in it. overall a good book, just not so much if you just want nothing but instructions.

,Saint

Thanks for the information! I'm going to get working.