Hey guys. I am just relearning this stuff after a hard LJBF. I love day game and on 30 approaches in the last week, I closed 5 numbers. No dates still. I'm 22 and I realize that I can't close with hot women that look like they are close to 30. I used Soul's direct day game opener "Excuse me, I was just walking by when I saw you and I had to say you're very beautiful." Obviously, she was not interested. I usually have a better chance of closing a girl my age (when she doesn't have a bf) but I have a hard time turning numbers into dates.

My night game is more troubled. I have a hard time making the indirect method work. Sometimes I'll number close a beautiful woman (hottest in the room) just to have her blow me off on the phone. This happens to me at bars, clubs, and when I was in college.

Can anyone give me pointers here? I'd appreciate any help I can get.

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flash90

Well done for getting out there and trying and also getting numbers.
Do you call them or txt them?

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First things first. I see that you are indeed very new, i mean, haven't you read The Game yet? I suggest reading that book to give you some general understanding of the field. Second, you should use any method that is available, you can't say "that doesn't fit me" because you haven't tried it many times (try using indirect opinion openers and be sure to get 21 good responses, if not, repeat) it will help you in your night game and day game as well. Also, if you want more of the Natural Game, i suggest you read The Attraction Code by Vin DiCarlo. it will help you as it helped me. Lastly, good luck sarging! There is no better teacher than experience itself so try to gain more and more experience everyday!!

I text them first, and then I call them. I've read 1/2 of The Game. It's sometimes hard to run game in a loud club or I try to use an opinion opener and the girl is just not interested in talking period.

I get the numbers. They're just not solid.

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flash90

It is about delivery, man. Improve your inner game and girls will see the REAL you. It will make your numbers solid. Fake your alpha male frame (if you still dont get it) until you make it real. Fake it till you make it. I have that same prob when I was new but i didn't find it hard to improve. Try it yourself