I am new to the community and have just read "The Game" by Neil Strauss and am currenty studying the Speed Seduction Course by Ross Jefferies. Does anyone here have any feedback from either one of these systems?....DueceMagic

even I m new on this topic like you, and I still have not tested this method in the field I think mystery method is one of the best, actually all methods I've been seening has the same struture always be the leeding situations negs high standards and spectations, so on, so you can play one that's fit best for you . it will help you play naturally. for me this is the big deal.

hope you undertand what i mean bye

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Urgh, I'd personally stay away from RJs Speed Seduction. I've never been appealed by the idea of hypnotizing a woman into bed. It just isn't me.

On the other hand, MM is a very, very good style, especially if you feel like tackling the bigger sets. It's relatively complicated compared to others - he breaks down everything imaginable in The Venusian Arts Handbook, though if you get through it all, you come out with a hell of a lot of knowledge.

Another general style to learn is definitely David Deangelo's - cocky&funny is an absolute must-have. Some of his lines are just classics, ok so people go on about "dude you can't use canned lines, thats just rAFC", but as long as you've calibrated and internalized C&F then its all good stuff (don't worry about not understanding that last sentence).

There are countless other guys who have their ebooks - Swingcat and Juggler are both very good - but don't bog yourself down in it all!

Anyways, good luck man - I started out with The Game too, and it got me laughing out loud, plus keen to learn more.