Hello Everyone,

I was introduced to the game somewhere around two years ago by Style's "The Game," and took off from there on. I changed my appearance in terms of starting to eat healthy and working out, eventually becoming a personal trainer. I began speaking with purpose and confidence and everything seemed great, until I met my ex. She was initially attracted to me because I displayed Alpha qualities, but all those deteriorated over a period of eight or so months to the point where she hates me now. I was clingy, self-conscious, stopped working out, asked her for permission, and did not set boundaries (pretty horrible). I recently moved and started graduate school in marriage and family therapy, hoping to academically increase my knowledge of relationships.

My physical appearance has gradually come back but I don't feel like a PUA anymore, I lack the confidence. It feels as if it has somehow been "beaten out of me."

I want to start over in this community and learn as much as I can. I want to eventually find the right woman, but until then I want to be surrounded by them.

As Mystery said: "I want women to want me and men to want to be me." Women are now attracted to me physically but I seem to drop the ball when it comes to conversing and taking it to another level, and I don't know why.

I look forward to becoming an active member.

- wonyhw

Hey, I know what you are talking about. I was in a Marriage 13 years and slowly degraded over time to the point where you are now. Ok so I started working out, took care of myself and read the same book.

To start in with the women I started with talking to the hired help = The checkout girls in places, and rather than HI - BYE I tried to have an actual good conversation...Then went to events Political, cooking seminars, art shows, Parades and town events. and this went a little better.

Now I am out flying solo etc. I recently changed my frame from pinning women down to just going for the entertainment value of talking to them and getting to know them and removing the pressure of the whole situation and for me this works better and I have more fun. My approaches are really good and tactical and so I hope you hit your stride. Welcome back to the game!

Thanks for the reply,

Thirteen years, man. That must've been tough. I admire that you've been able to get out and are back on the prowl, good for you.

I don't think there is a word to describe how much it sucks going from being on top of the game, being in top physical shape, being cocky/funny, that initially attracted the woman, to where everything was lost. It almost seems as if I lose myself once I stepped away from the game.

I look forward to getting back on top and working with fellow aspiring PUA's like yourself (It sucks from going to PUA to AFC).

You'll get it back man. I was in a serious relationship for some time and put on that relationship weight. Then when things got sour, I realized I needed to re-learn the game, get back in shape, and find myself and re-value my needs all over again. Good luck with the journey

Hey yeah 13 years was like 95% good and only unravelled in the end. some guy got in there and snagged her away so these things happen.

So my hang up is that I can get to the hook point where a girl does not want me t leave and hang out....But I can't seem to escalate from there to the sensual, seduction, sexual interest end of things...so I am a great opener thanks to what I have learned in the community here, and reading...i just have to get over this hangup.

13-15 years of committed relationship is a long time and to snap out of that is prooving an issue but that is OK. I had 3 situations over the weekend that could have easily escalated...and a 4th I was going for but 3 Chumps came in and litterally drug the gitl off. It would have been a fight for sure if I pushed further so had to let it go.

Well..... it's part of the adventure, and I welcome it you will have to let me know how it goes.