Hey fellas. First post here. I guess I will give you my reason for posting. Maybe some will identify.

I have been running "natural game", and just recently discovered [u]The Game[/u] and the different methods and routines PUA's like to use. I have always had a good amount of success with girls at bars, with the caveat, that I have to drink a decent amount before I feel comfortable running game. Since I will be graduating from grad school and working a good amount I cannot really rely on going out three-four nights a week while drinking. I would like to be able to comfortably run day game or even night game without having to alter my mental state with alcohol. What really amazed me was that the PUA's run game dead sober. My goal is to get to that point. I wonder if anyone here was/is in a similar position?

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Sober is the way to go because:

a) You're more in control of your game

b) You develop more confidence in your skills

c) It allows you to do game in any occasion (Day/Night).

It does take time and some effort to get past Approach Anxiety, but it's worthy.

Good luck, read a lot, and practice as much as possible (sober ).

Welcome to the forum Blonde.

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Thanks for the reply. I totally agree that game without alcohol is much stronger and far more consistent than game with alcohol. Alcohol's only purpose is to get over AA. I am going to give it a shot this week and see what happens.

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Good enough

Good luck and let us know how it goes.

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disagree, sober is the way to go if you're happier sober. I'm happier drunk so I game drunk at bars and sober in the day. I don't really ever bother "sarging", just meet girls wherever I am. That's the way to do it imo. Why go out of your way and change what you like doing to meet girls when they're everywhere. (that said, if you think alcohol has a negative effect on your life in other ways, decrease or stop)

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I figured I would give you an update. Last night I went out with a buddy of mine that recently broke-up with his gf. We went to a local college bar where we attend grad school. As we walked in, he went to the bathroom and I headed to the bar. On my way to the bar I spotted an HB 8.5 giving me a flirtatious smile. I promised myself that I would abide by Mystery's 3 second rule. As such, I immediately approached her while some random dude was attempting to hit on her, but clearly failing miserably. I did the secret admirer opener, followed with 3-4 negs (cant quite remember how many) mixed into the conversation. I felt a good vibe so I went into Style's 5 lies game and that really seemed to spice things up. Obviously she lost, bought drinks. I thought maybe I could go for the same day lay, but I failed to notice she had 4 friends with her that were all guy-less. Her friends all wanted to leave and they left with her, but this girl sort of hung back and she gave me her number, and invited me to go with her to another bar before she left. I decided not to follow them to another bar, since I was not with my boy and I don't follow girls to bars (def not an alpha move in my opinion).

Question: I know that the game says that I should have opened all of them and made them like me etc, before running game on the HB 8.5. However, I feel that I really had no choice but to approach this girl immediately. Would you guys have tried to include the friends after running some initial game, or was the number the best I was going to get?


Eventually I found my friend and he saw a blonde two-set that he liked. I went in solo with the exact same secret admirer opener. Again mixed in some negs, offered Style's five lies game, brought them to the bar where my friend was introduced. After some fluff, I did the C vs. U smile thing, followed by more fluff. Anyway, I did end up with a same day lay, as did my boy.

All in all a successful night. While my game is not as smooth as it can be, I feel confident enough in the different routines to run some day game. What do you guys think is the biggest hurdle in day game?

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