Hey guys! I'm a 23-year-old male from Las Vegas.

I've always been into the more natural take on picking up girls so I've always shied away from routines and pick-up lines. A couple of my friends have been into "the game" for a few years now and I've watched them, countless times, pick up just about anyone they want or lay eyes on. Having watched them, an interest sparked in the back of my mind that I haven't been able to ignore. I want more. I want to learn different techniques, both inner and outer, to enhance my current abilities to pick up girls anywhere I go.

I am a master salesman with long term goals of opening up a few retail stores here in Vegas. I enjoy some good karaoke with friends and hitting up the night life on the strip.

What kind of routines are good to start off with.
Are pick up lines as essential as many PUA's make them out to be? If so what are the most successful?

Ah the never ending debate between Natural game vs. Techniques... The truth is Natural game is not for everyone, but Indirect game DEFINITELY isn't either.

So my question for you is, what do you want?

Do you want to be using canned routines and material like your friends? What are the type of women you want to sleep with? For me, any woman that would fall for my canned routines/techniques is not a woman I'm really interested in, which is why I stick to 100% Natural Game, which works wonders for me.

So, what do you want? I mean really want, not "want" so you can impress others or seemingly improve your status. When I understand what it is you're working toward I can give you a better answer to your question.

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I wouldn't mind using routines at first to be able to plant psychological seeds in the girls that I am most interested in, if my natural games doesn't seem to be doing the trick. If I start with some routines, I will be able to see why they work and begin making my own routines based on what works for me.

We are definitely similar in choices of women. I don't want to go for the girls that just fall for any routine because that would just be boring. I like the "chase" and the reward that comes thereafter. I am more into the women that, in my own words, would be "classy and sassy." I like to pick on my girls and I expect the same in return. I absolutely HATE damsels in distress and the insecurities that come along with them, although they are sometimes the easiest targets.

Really I just want something that will build into my character as a part of who I already am. I know that's kinda hard for you but any ideas where to start?

Thanks,

Mikey D