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I didn't say they liked those men. I said they are attracted to those men. The rebels and the bad-asses. The _jerks_. Getting around that initial attraction, women often do find men who are loving and giving and wonderful to be with. Sometimes, men who give off that initial bad-ass vibe are actually nice guys, with a layer of facade. But finding those men can be a challenge.

Set out what is important to you; do you want a bad-ass (a real bad-ass, as opposed to the bad-ass-on-the-outside-sweet-sensitive-guy-on-the-inside)? do you want someone who is knowledgeable? do you want someone that can entertain you? are you looking for a one-night-stand or a long-term relationship? Figure out your goals, and then go for them, and if the people you're talking to don't have the features you're looking for, move on.
I'm all of the above.. Took years to acquire all the traits. Into my late '30's and loads of experience. Including one failed marriage (thankfully with no children).

It's possible. But it takes time. And by the time the majority of guys acquire it they're married, and their wives can take some of the credit for the transformation, if it's even possible with a particular guy. Guys don't shed their bullshyt programming and misconceptions about themselves and the opposite sex easily.

And that's the problem in a nutshell.. Finding out exactly what a particular woman wants, especially the young ones. They often aren't very good at verbalizing it. And we always have great difficulty at reading their often passive aggressive and subtle signals. They're testing the waters if you will. At the peak of their sexual desirability. No wonder so many of them put off childbirth into their '30's and suddenly find it aint working anymore for a variety of reasons.

Hence my insistence of creating as much commonality as possible.

Love takes time. So does wading through all the chaffe.

If you're just looking to get your rocks off get a bottle of lotion, a towel and a magazine. You'll save yourself alot of heartache, perhaps child support, and prescriptions for Valtrex.

As I remember back over the past 46 years, some of the most rewarding experiences I've ever had with girls didn't involve sex at all for one reason or another. Now alot of guys will say, man that's just crazy.. Not really. Sex is a physical act (a fun one no doubt), but the mind and the emotions is where the real action is.

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I'm not really talking from a guy's perspective here. I'm talking about girl-game primarily, which I think is where the confusion is coming from.

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I'm not really talking from a guy's perspective here. I'm talking about girl-game primarily, which I think is where the confusion is coming from.
I'll agree it's a confusing and often self destructive game from both perspectives.

Enjoyed sharing a few notes about our individual experiences.. :)

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Giacomo - shall I put on my stripper playboy bunny outfit?

Starbuck - Thanks for the welcome note. I'm both student and worker bee.

C-DUB - Probably for similar reasons why you're here ;) Even before The Game was published I'm already pretty good at the art of pick-up. I guess curiousity can kill the cat but I'm a bad kitty.

Enigma87 - neg much?
I thoroughly enjoyed that. Thank you Ariel.

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anyway ...... Monkey and star - i think your high jacking this thread!!

Ariel - i am interested. you didnt explain why your here?? atleast not very well... (you stated its the same as us....)

do you find it hard to pick up?
do you have AA?
do you have low inner game?
are you at home most nights and have trouble with friends?
are you here to meet people or to inhance your personality/ mind set etc?
is it just an interest in the community cause 'the game' was a good read?

i am just wondering what brings women here? or mainly you


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Could be ming..

Haven't heard from Ariel in a while..

Maybe I scared the kitty off.. 8)

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*Meow* I'm back.

Me oh my, how this thread flourished in my absence. Hmm. Nice.

I'll start where I left off:

Krylon - Thank you :)

Starbuck - I'm in Alberta currently. I was originally from Vancouver, B.C. I have a degree in Computer Science and Business... so I'm done school for now but thinking about getting my MBA. What did I do for a job? I did a bit of modeling to finance my educational persuits. Now I'm an office girl.

* with regards to the interchange between Starbuck and Monkey* - Hmm. Interesting. More later.

Methuselah - Thank you :)

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Hard to pick up? Absolutely not

Have AA? I don't know what AA stands for.

Have low inner game? again, I don't understand the question.

At home most nights and have trouble with friends? I work over 10 hours a day in my day job so I actually enjoy staying at home in that rare chance. I'm a hermit at heart. I'm afraid of having too many friends so I don't actively seek people out. They come to me.

Here to meet people or to ENhance your personality/ mind set etc? yes , yes , yes. My, don't I sound orgasmic.

is it just an interest in the community cause 'the game' was a good read? It's nice to find like-minded people.

i am just wondering what brings women here? or mainly you. I can't speak for the other women in this community since I haven't really surfed this forum for long. I'm a straight female, but I think I think more like a guy. I may act all girl. Dress like a girl. Even enjoy the occational chick flick but I can relate more to guys. Being around guys just feels comfortable.


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Mocha is much the same way. She comments on girls asses, holds up her fist and says "pound it..." more often than I do. ^_^

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this is really making me cry..one girl introduces herself and you guys jump all over her? Fuck me sideways...this is bullshit.

Just shows you how much everyone here needs to get out, more.

Welcome to the Forums ariel, any AFC, Pua, is welcome no matter gender.

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this is really making me cry..one girl introduces herself and you guys jump all over her? Fuck me sideways...this is bullshit.

Just shows you how much everyone here needs to get out, more.

Welcome to the Forums ariel, any AFC, Pua, is welcome no matter gender.

SF

Amen

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I dig her.. :wink:

Intelligent women with a bright future are my thing. :)

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Female pickup? This is a joke, right? Maybe I am just bitter after years and years of the women I REALLY want turning me down, the years and years of me dating girls because I was settling for what I could GET instead of learning how to obtain what I WANTED, maybe call it bitterness at myself for never bothering to do the research on all this PUA stuff until now...but as far as I'm concerned this, in a nutshell, sums up the well-crafted, highly-detailed, incredibly-involved art of the female pickup. (I invite you all to please smell the sarcasm that the previous statement reeks of.)

I am going to show you the art of female pick-up in action. Imagine, if you will, a young woman walking into a bar/grocery store/church. She spots a man who has no one around him and takes a place next to him. To get him to notice her, she clears her throat.

FEM-PUA: Hi.

MALE: Hi.

(Awkward silence.)

FEM-PUA: Well, I'm really horny and wanna get laid right now. Are you busy right now?

MALE: Oh, no...well, I mean I just had to give a speech/walk my dog/go perform open heart surgery...but what the hell, let's go.

(They leave together and vigorously bang somewhere.)

Am I missing anything? The only skill a "female pick-up artist" has to master is the ability to say the words "I'M HORNY."

Like I said, maybe I am just bitter...


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Desire makes a great point..

All women are natural pick up artists from the moment they pass through puberty. 8)

Men? We're just a penis, some seed and a desire to fling ourselves in front of speeding trains, etc.. You know, to impress women with the hope they might give us what we so desperately desire.

Although some of us bring a little more to the table than others. Some of it can be learned, some of it can't. :wink:

No sense fighting it, or being bitter. Just learn to be the best man you can. And play the game. They'll appreciate you for it. 8)

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What are your standards mate? is that how you guys view yourselfs as easy? fuck that, I've got standards and if some crazed chick came with the dialogue Desire stated id laugh her in the face and walk away, scary shit, sounds like a decease carrier to me, and yes trust me girls need pickup just as much as we do, us guys might do the aproaching, but hell, it takes two to tango does'nt it?

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I think you misunderstood me. Of course no one ACTUALLY goes up and says crazy shit like that. (If they did, I would probably avoid them too because I'd be wondering why they were so easy.) My point is that women don't need game...the pursuers (aka MEN) are the ones who need game.


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