Hellooooo!!!
I've been reading and practicing game for awhile but still can't seen to put it all together. I here to learn and advance my game and get the most out of this for my personal life and not just for picking up women although it is part of it but also to have people around me. If there's someone out there who thinks the same way let me know and maybe we can help each other to advance our game.

Tapcal

Hey man,

Have you read any of the books on the recommended reading list?
Or attempted to 30 day challenge?

Think of your last success... Think how could it have been better?

Paint5

Hey paint5
I have read some of those books. I've also read the game. And right now I'm working on openers. Ive been getting good responses from using the jealous girlfriend and spells openers. Now I want to move into disqualifiers. Have you you gotten your game this far yet? Is there some tips you could give me on using disqualifiers on my game?
Hopefully we can help each other out

Hey tapcal, whats good? Sorry for the delay!

Yeah I am building my openers right now and currently trying those you mentioned on for size but finding resistance. The reason I say this is I am having more success the last couple of days with situational openers and creating micro anticipations... Which lead to closing mostly with DeAngello's techniques... (2/3 success ratio)

Do you find that using scripted stuff is really helping you to advance? Or do you find it conflicts with being your best genuine self?

Chief said something i found interesting on this... (it all starts with you, ego and giving value) - post148511.html?hilit=giving%20value%20 ... on#p148511

Hopefully yeah we can help each other thats what were here for dude

Peace. Paint5.

Hey paint5,

I've been using these openers because I see that they react good and it also gets them talking. It also makes them tell you things about the topic if they have expirienced something similar. The only thing that I have notice is that I must be doing or saying something to convey interest because normally they mention a boyfriend or husband. What I think is that I probably need to use a disqualifier. What do you think?

About scripted stuff... Like I've read, they're only use to get you over hurdles. I never try to portray someone I'm not. For example the openers I use because I find it gets a good conversation going and then I'm on my own to continue it. Using my own opinion on the subject and so on. And if situational openers work for you then it's all good. So now let's work on the next piece of the game. Like style say" small chunck it."

Do you ever get the boyfriend mention during the opener?

By the way what is micro anticipation? I haven't really read up much on David d.

I read the post by chief . Good post. Now the question is how do we develop this value?

Hey tapcal,

Just got in and saw your reply. I want to use these openers more but I feel like... they are only relevant in bars and clubs? and I like day game more. How long does it take to num-close with an indirect?

I kinda prefer quick, short, sharp, value spiked conversations and then act like Im super busy in a calm way.... Number closing in under 7 mins is becoming my strategy, or otherwise its LJBF 4 life. Stuck to the short sharp value spiking tonight and k-closed with a HB7 i met last week. Done. The situational opener used: "yeah this shop is great don't you just love these places...?" Then went for the email. Done.

Thats the issue with indirect openers in my current style that I'm having; you open, you get them talking, but the subsequent rollers aren't building/rooting the opener enough (because its scripted?) and you inevitably aren't giving the woman enough calibrated value spiked reasons or opportunities to imagine as to why she should close with you. Specifically you, specifically now! What is your experience though?

Be well happy to share/ swap stories on our best or fave openers though....
Sure but I've done more "situationals" than anything and I focus on framing her as a cute friend so I very rarely get told of a bf especially if i close with an email. But maybe someone else has?

Micro anticipation = slowing yourself down and building intrigue with your interaction(s) best used in crescendo to a k-close. (I would describe it like that anyway)

Hit me back man though this subject is ripely relevant to me right now!