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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:03 am 
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Hello everyone!
For some time now i have been wanting to be part of this forum. I have seen some realy interesting stuff being shared, and i believe its time for me to give my own contribution to the community as well!
So... im 25, im from NJ and NO, my real name is not Brian Bond!
I have been "studing" pick up for about 2 years now. It all started due to curiosity and skepticism. Being told that successful interaction between opposite sexes could be turned into "an exact science" was something that realy caught my attention.
I was working as a nightclub promoter when i first got introduced to "the game", and even before i knew about this venusian art, i would passionaly observe an analyse approaches and pick ups at the places i would be promoting at.
The book The Game got me introduced to the underground community. I have analysed all sorts of material, from the Mystery Method, to David Deangelo's cocky funny method, Ross Jefferies NLP, etc...
I do not consider myself a natural, although i do recall unconsciently using some of the techniques covered by some authors. Im a very sarcastic person, therefore, i would say that i identify myself better with David Deangelo's methods.
I do not look at myself as being a PUA. I consider myself pretty successful with women. Im not an approach machine, but i do consciouly connect at a high level with women.
I extremely enjoy interacting with people, socialize, and analyse social interaction (which was the main reason why i started studing the material). I have a special interest for photography, fashion, and music. One of my hobbies is to record live music performances, specially acoustic covers performed by "not known" artists at bars... yeee... i have a decent size collection.
Well... i have some interesting stuff to share that i believe will help some people... we will see!
Lets have some fun :D

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:02 pm 
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nice! i can relate.

yea i've also been studying the materials for about two yrs and have had some success with women using techniques, but it's been mostly to acquaintances. i'm just now fully emercing myself in the game.. im in the process of approaching and trying techniques with strangers..


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:40 pm 
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Nice meeting you Kastle.
Randomly opening sets with the sole intent of getting laid is not exactly my strength, at least on the same night (I dont even aim for it). Most girls I run successful game are usually introduced to me by friends, or we just randomly start talking. That made me realize that approaching with the objective of closing successfully would trow me in an uncomfortable position. I kind of overcame that "fear" as I built my success, and therefore confidence. There is one thing that is part of my success. Im very sarcastic and im called an asshole sometimes, but that helps my game. Everyone likes to be an ass sometimes, and im the guy who allows girls to be assholes, to be smartasses, etc, without having the fear of looking like bitch. Thats because I always have an answer, which pushes them to be more an more assholes, and they love it cause they cant be like that with other ppl.
Couple of weeks ago I number closed a girl on facebook (I actually wanna share the convo cause it was perfect!) ... She called me the next day and she said "oh, you are so mean, I thought you were a nice guy!" (cause of some smart comment I made) ... My answer: "listen, im pretty sure you have plenty of nice ppl on your contacts lists... So dont call me expecting me to do their job!"...we exchanged txts all next day... She txts me at 4am sunday asking for a cigarette! Drove down 20m to meet up for 15m! Almost got me in trouble lol.
We got to share some ideas!

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:06 am 
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Hello Mr. Bond, Brian Bond... :P

Welcome Welcome Welcome, your desirability to determine how far down the rabbit hole you want to go is determine by you, alone ;)

I have a question though, it seems to me that you have already introduced yourself to the different types of seductions... There is more then one way to skin the cat, you know?

What kind of seduction do you understand the most or what seduction you like the best? What is your ideas of seduction as it stands today?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:07 am 
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Hi Mr. Half9 ... you could have started with an easier question lol
Im gonna try to NOT get off-topic
Its funny cause even when i started "studing" The Mystery Method, i focused way more on the attraction and comfort building than on the seduction stage. Im not the kind of guy who needs to go from meeting to getting laid on the same day to feel accomplished and successful. Looking back at my pick ups, i can say that i notice a great deal of attraction with no need to engage into a seduction game. Its funny cause i like to catch girls off guard with a question like "you are so into me and i havent even started flirting with you... imagine when i start!" and the typical response falls into this lines: "i ask myself the same question". I noticed that the fact that i dont realy show intentions of taking them to bed realy favors me. Im not saying that i dont use seduction, but its subliminal.
I look at The Mystery Method as a "you got to do it big, strong and fast"... that is not me. David D material is more like "i know you want me... lets see how llong you are gonna hide it".
Im not a fan of romantic seduction styles, sweet talk etc... just not my style. Im also not a fan of the "look at my loaded biceps and triceps... and armored chest" seduction. My main weapon is my mind and i love to play with it!
I know that there are way more different approaches, and i will be more that happy if you show me what you identify youself with. Like that i can learn more, i will get to know your style and we can share ideas.
Im gonna stop here cause its the 3rd time im trying to answer your question (my internet is acting up and logging me off!) and im tired!
Give me some feedback!

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 3:13 am 
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Its funny cause i like to catch girls off guard with a question like "you are so into me and i havent even started flirting with you... imagine when i start!" and the typical response falls into this lines: "i ask myself the same question".

I noticed that the fact that i dont realy show intentions of taking them to bed realy favors me. Im not saying that i dont use seduction, but its subliminal.

My main weapon is my mind and i love to play with it!
Dont forget your words is also a tool (In reality its your ONLY weapon) ;)

Maybe your onto something or maybe its not new but you will develop into your own style, thats for sure!

Look at Ross Jeffries and Speed Seduction... Dont forget Dr. Richard Bandler and NLP... and of course Milton Erickson.

Only look into these people if you really want to put your words and your mind to the true test of seduction ;)


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 5:37 pm 
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HALF 9:
i agree when you said that i might be up to something different. If you analyse my testemonies, it is not hard to see influences of the 3 masters i mentioned above, but i dont realy follow a method. When i first started, most of the times i would use canned material due to my skepticism. I was kind of looking at the material as a mathematical formula that no matter what, it would lead to a positive result... and soon i realized that i wasnt taking in account all the variables that made part of this function! ALTHOUGH, the little i tested was enought to get over all the skepticism and become realy interested in this art form. Actually, i look at pick up more as a science than a form of art (but im not even gonna get into this topic).
Thank you for the references! Ross Jeferries material was what got me introduced to NLP. I found it very interesting but i soon got side-tracked into the NLP general concepts ... fascinating! I never got realy into the speed seduction method because (for some reason) i find it very manipulating ... interesting but not exactly what i want to use. I feel its like using a cheat code to freeze the opponent on a fighting videogame lol. NOW, im not saying that i dont use it. Actually, as i was reading about NLP, i realized i was somehow unconsciouly using some techniques ... and i still used them, but now consciously and with a purpose, and i got to say that its very powerful!
At the end, i dont see myself sticking to just one method. When i go out, if you see me you will definitely identify peakcock theory, kino, multiple thread theory, cocky funny, some subliminal messages, mind games, etc... So i definetly have to give credit to all the methods i have came across!
Once again, thanks for the references!

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