Whats up Ultra? Just joined the club too. I'm a little older, but I'm in the same boat. I run out of shit to say, then just start asking boring questions (work, where do you live) then I lose them. How do I hook them?

One thing I have succeeded with when it comes to girls is keeping it simple. When I memorized multiple tactics and openers before I went out or talk to a girl, I tended to screw them up because my mind shifted into overdrive trying to think which one to use and it can make you freeze up and nervous when you run out of pre-planned material and make the situation awkward after the open. I tend now to keep it as simple as possible. If its two girls, open to the set, find out where they are from, neg their hometown. The usual response I get is asking where I am from so they can neg me back. The girl in the set that negs me is showing me an IOI. I always smile at both after the neg, kino that girl lightly on the arm or shoulder and tell her "thats not very nice". I proceed to tell both girls that I am going back to my friends (while looking somewhat upset and in that direction so they know where i am going) and if they decide they want to play nice I am drinking a jack and coke (insert whatever drink you want here). If the girls come with your drink then the conversation should flow much easier because you have established the control and you are on more of a home turf as they have come to you this time and shown interest in pursuing a conversation. Also your wing should be in your group of friends to help move conversation and eventually remove the girl you did not kino. If you have done all this and the girls do not come to you in a timely manner then I tend to bait them. I will walk through their area where they are standing in order to reach someone on the other side of them, at the same time I am freezing them out when I am walking by them. Girls do not like to think they are forgotten. If they still do not come, then maybe its time to move on.

I am a newby PUA, I read some books, and have actually closed some numbers with girls off the street. But if im gonna be the real deal i can't do it alone. Need to find quality PUA wingmen. When i say quality some one who is somewhat social and not psycho. I live in NYC, i'm sure there lurking all over the place. i am taking being a PUA in training very serious and looking for a fellow PUA starting out. We can learn and motivate each other. We can critique each others game. You need an objective eye to give you notes. How did you guys find your PUA community when you joined the GAME? I been thinking about doing some of the work shops but the sticker shock is too much. Some of them want to 2 grand. Is this a scam. Are there more affordable workshops in NYC?

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I'm pretty new to this scene as well, but since it seems like your prob is to keep the conversations going, I would recommend Conversational Jujitsu by Juggler.