Hey guys let me tell u a brief story about why I came here. I've been the biggest AFC, typical "nice guy". I had this huge crush on a girl for about 4 years a definite one-itis. I'm a big guy, 6'0 245, a good 35lbs overweight and asian. I thought all the girls wanted were looks, and I wasn't born with a great face so I thought my personality would get me some where. Nope.

So about a month ago, one of my girl "friends" tells me that when I was was alone with one of my friends girlfriend alone, they wouldn't care cause I was
"just OneTime". And then a day after that I confessed my feelings to my one-itis after 4 years and she gave me the "I consider you a great friend" speech.

I reevaluated everything in my life, starting with myself. I saw Mystery's VH1 commercial, and I thought, "hm I wonder if that does actually work." So I found this place. It's been 2 weeks, I read, like 4 e-books roam a few websites. And off to the bars I go.

My friend, his GF, and I went to a bar. She loves dancing, I hate dancing. I tell her, I need to get rid of this fear right now. No one was on the dance floor, I told her, "fuck it, let's go." My friend doesn't like to dance, so I took his g/f by the hand and went out to the middle of the dance floor and started dancing. (He knows I wouldn't fuck him over, but now I bet I'm not, "just OneTime" to him.'"

Soon as we start dancing a bunch of other people come on the floor, 90% girls so I use my friend as a pivot, just like I read. I make sure I have a blast, keeping a big smile at all times and scoping out the dance floor.

*WHAT I'M GONNA SAY BELOW MADE UP YEARS FOR YEARS OF DEPRESSION*

I went outside to the patio w/ my friends to have a smoke and out of no where, someone grabbed my ass! OMFG NO WAY! Could it have possibly happened? A total stranger grabbing my ass?
I couldn't believe it, so I asked my friends, "dude, did you just grab my ass? Don't fuck with me, I'm asking you to promise me on your friendship, you didn't just grab my ass."
He swore he didn't. I had a rough clue to who it was because when I turned around to see, there was a 3 set walking right past me.

When we go back in, the dance floor is dead again! So I said fuck it! I was on such an emotional high from the ass grab I didn't hesitate for a second to go back on the dance floor w/ my friend's girl. I kept running over what line I'd use incase the girls came back to dance. I was praying they'd come back so I can confront them and see how my first sarge goes.

They came back! I walked over to them and said,
"Hey! Which one of you grabbed my ass?"
2 looked suprised, but one laughed and pointed at herself, she was really cute too! OH my GOD! Easily an HB8.5! I tried to look calm and told her,

"Hey, if you wanna grab my ass, grab higher!"

SHE ATE IT UP!!! OMFG THAT LINE WORKED LIKE A CHARM! When I first read all these, posts, I was like no way these lines work. Or you gotta be damn good looking for it to work. I said it with confidence and poise, like I've been doin this my whole life. And literally, that's all I needed. Then I said to her,

"Ok for grabbing my ass, you owe me a dance"

Here's where it went down hill, we started dancing and smiling at first but she kept whipping me with her hair, which I took as a shit test but I couldn't come up w/ a neg fast enough. Remember, my first time. She said something about her hair and even though I knew I shouldn't say it but I said, "WHAT?" cause I couldn't hear her. Then it just went down hill from there. We finished the song and I immediately went back to dancing w/ my friends.

This was the best night in 10 years, and I'm still on an adrenaline high, that it's been 3 hrs and I can't fall asleep. And I got work in 5 hrs! I had to give much due props to everyone here and all the books I've read.

If all you newbies like me are hesitant about these things and it would never work for you. This is the real fucking deal. You don't know how good it feels to have this night after 10 frustrating years of being single and hating it.

Work on yourself first, the inner-game, your posture your thinking, then the girls will actually come to YOU! My pivot and I OWNED that dance floor and I can't dance worth shit, especially cause it's like my 2nd time ever trying to dance. But when girls know your having fun, they'll come to you.
Confidence! LEARN IT NOW!

Anyone have suggestions how I could've kept her interested the whole dance and possibly more? It was tough cause the music was right in our face. From what I read sarging dance clubs are tough cause of the music, what could've I done to escalate it further w/o words?

Hahahaha, congradulations on finally realizing that you've been an AFC for 10 years. For the first time, you did alright. Gaming girls in the club on the dancefloor is a little difficult but you just need to show that your having more fun then any other guy standing or sitting around the dancefloor and this is what you did, good job. there's a good post on here by XF that talks about gaming on the dancefloor, try do a search and read up on it. But sounds like when you finally got the attention from the HB's, you started to hesitate and convert back to being a AFC because you didn't want to lose her interest. But by doing this, you started to be boring and turning into just another guy in the bar that she's dancing with. Improve on your inner game like you said and you'll have the confidence to just say fuck it all the time.

My suggestion for that situation is that you shouldn't have taken her to the dancefloor and reward her for touching your ass so easily. Should have started building rapport and DHV her. I'm a pretty big guy too so what I find that works for me is when I use cocky funny and cocky playful. Learn this, it's a big plus because you start to show confidence and have fun playing with girls. From there, you can start working towards kinoing and phase changing so you don't get caught in the LJBF zone. I had a problem being put into this catergory also, but now I try to make sure that the window of opportunity is taken advantage of.

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Ya I need to learn a bit more of C &F. When I go over conversations I have with girls, when she jokes about me. I automatically take it as an insult, it takes me a couple seconds to realize that she was just messing around, and by that time the spark fades. I guess that's going to come with getting rid of my self consciousness, that's taking a little bit more time than being confident.

HAha this post brought a big smile to my face


All i can say is, dont worry your first set and you did fucking good!

Keep going. Find a wing man and get out there and fucking sarge my man! GO go go!

HAha there are a bunch of info out there to help you. PM me and ill link you some of the dvds and shit (cant post them here).

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well played one time, you have the attitude of a winner, more practice more talking is all you need,

i know you say you had a fear of dancing but im guessing you quite like it now?

it is fun an will get you noticed, like peacocking through actions rather than clothes, but its not good for talkin or opening really.. its normally too loud an people are there to dance and not to talk. if though you do meet a girl ont he dancelfoor and have a small dance finish the song an ask if she wants to go sit down try isolate her quickly so you can get chatting, if you have fun talkin an still wanna boogie go back for a bit you will be alot less likely to loose her then..

if you build a good rapport in the talkin take her to the dancefloor dance for abit and leave her, if she is interested she will find you!

and also has been my problem when dancing i have turned into...how can i describe this... a big sweaty mess..... not as attractive as i thought.

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I've seen a whole new side of dancing that's for sure lol. I still need to smile when I make eye contact with people. I haven't been doing it at all.

Wow thats awesome and good for you it must have felt like the greatest high ever and you just dont want to come down...!!! Keep it up I can see how that would boost you'r ego up and thats something that you needed...something I also need to but yeah reading that made me smile to cheer's bro good JoB!!!!!!