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Author:  unstoppable [ Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:25 pm ]
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OK im 19 yrs old 5"10 physically fit from high school foot ball and to what most girls call pretty cute, when i go out i have no problems getting looks from girls or even getting them to approach me! the only problem i have is what to say to them
example:
last weekend i was in a bar with a fakey, and i saw an older women(who i later found out was a stripper and was 27) eye fucking the shit out of me. so i watch her on the dance floor with another guy or two but she'd always glance over at me. so finally she walks past me and i grab her hand, she leans over and says whats your name and i reply blahzaay! and i say
"i saw you on the dance floor, why dont you show me some of that"

she replys by grabbing my hand and taking me to the floor! we start conversating about bs and she eventually says i wanna get out of here!

and thats where everything went wrong! I dont know if i didnt come on strong enough or if i didnt say the right thing, but i ended up with a number close and a call me tommorow after work. needless to say i didnt call her.
so now im looking for a bit of help on what to say next time
Author:  neogamer [ Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:42 pm ]
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Hard to know what went "wrong" without more info. You may not have had to do much other than being laid back, non-needy, and quiet to get laid. Sounds like she was ready for action. Sometimes when we're nervous we talk too much and ruin the mood. Give her a call and let her lead you into sex...
Author:  unstoppable [ Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:03 pm ]
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well thats the worst part about it we get to talking about where we're from and she asks me where i lived and i told her and she said she lived like two seconds away, and when she said i wanna get out of here i say well we can go back to my house! but i was thinking if i should've said get out of here and do what and if she would've led more into it took her to the car
Author:  Valence [ Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:09 pm ]
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Give her a call and let her lead you into sex...
Since when is a PUA lead into anything..... Extremly poor advice.
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"she leans over and says whats your name and i reply blahzaay! "


First mistake was letting her lead with the opener. When you grabbed her had, you should have said something first.
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"i saw you on the dance floor, why dont you show me some of that"
Why don't you? Never say that.
That opened many times of non-positive comebacks...... You are completly giving her the frame.

I liked what I saw, come and show me some of that. (I would not have said this either but it fits in better with what you said. The point being, is you completly gave yourself over to her.

No idea about the rest but she held the frame the entire time you two were interacting. That is what went wrong.
Author:  Starbuck [ Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: all right heres the deal
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OK im 19 yrs old 5"10 physically fit from high school foot ball and to what most girls call pretty cute, when i go out i have no problems getting looks from girls or even getting them to approach me! the only problem i have is what to say to them
example:
last weekend i was in a bar with a fakey, and i saw an older women(who i later found out was a stripper and was 27) eye fucking the shit out of me. so i watch her on the dance floor with another guy or two but she'd always glance over at me. so finally she walks past me and i grab her hand, she leans over and says whats your name and i reply blahzaay! and i say
"i saw you on the dance floor, why dont you show me some of that"

she replys by grabbing my hand and taking me to the floor! we start conversating about bs and she eventually says i wanna get out of here!

and thats where everything went wrong! I dont know if i didnt come on strong enough or if i didnt say the right thing, but i ended up with a number close and a call me tommorow after work. needless to say i didnt call her.
so now im looking for a bit of help on what to say next time
Hahahhahhahhha.. :lol:

That's funny as hell.

When she says "hey I want to get out of here", you say.. "Let's go to your or my place and have some fun, etc..". No need to beat around the bush.

By saying she wants to get out of here, and it's you and her alone together she's basically saying she wants to go find a better place to start getting intimate. Help her.

The minute you get her in private, grab her around the waist and kiss the heck out of her. You'll know what to do from there.

And if an older woman wants you that bad, definitely call her back. Tell her you don't have any money or something. :lol:
Author:  unstoppable [ Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:28 pm ]
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well i def dont call myself a pua and thats why im on her getting advice, so next time i should def just go in the conversation and take control, i heard somewhere that women like it more when you suggest things to them rather thna blanntly coming out and saying lets fuck, thnx for the advice
Author:  Starbuck [ Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:31 pm ]
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well i def dont call myself a pua and thats why im on her getting advice, so next time i should def just go in the conversation and take control, i heard somewhere that women like it more when you suggest things to them rather thna blanntly coming out and saying lets fuck, thnx for the advice
Yep, women like to be led. 99.0% of the time they will absolutely refuse to lead or be as forward as this woman was.

When they show interest (IOI) like that, the guessing game, on whether you are going to get some or not has already ended. You just need to take charge and get her some place and make it happen.

She was ready. Probably still is. Take advantage of it. It's not usually that easy.

P.S. Make sure you got your condom and don't dive in until take a good around down there first. Safety first. :lol:
Author:  unstoppable [ Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:37 pm ]
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sweet shit, so this weekend there's a halloween theme at the bar im going to and more than likely i'll end up with another chick but in a bar situation with music and dance floor there's not that much time to do openers dhv( which im still not sure what it means) and things of that sort is there anything short sweet and to the point i could use?
Author:  L.A. Tripp [ Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:07 pm ]
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Damn right it's not usually that easy. 99% of the time it's not that easy, lol.

Man, you just had an open invitation to fuck the hell out of her all night long. As Starbuck said, call her up. See if she's still at that point. If so, go for it this time.
Author:  neogamer [ Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:31 pm ]
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Give her a call and let her lead you into sex...

Since when is a PUA lead into anything..... Extremly poor advice.
A PUA must be flexible. She was older, obviously more experienced, and knew what she wanted from our young friend who posted. Older women WANT and LIKE control, and that may be what she was attracted to. If our young friend tried to "take control of the frame" he might ruin exactly what she liked about him. He must present himself the way she wants him to be, if he wants to get laid.
Author:  Rye Lee [ Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:43 pm ]
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Give her a call and let her lead you into sex...

Since when is a PUA lead into anything..... Extremly poor advice.
A PUA must be flexible. She was older, obviously more experienced, and knew what she wanted from our young friend who posted. Older women WANT and LIKE control, and that may be what she was attracted to. If our young friend tried to "take control of the frame" he might ruin exactly what she liked about him. He must present himself the way she wants him to be, if he wants to get laid.
Nah, even the experienced women are more submissive and like to be lead, that's just how they have been conditioned all their lives. Once you get them home and have established that you are going to fuck her brains out, then you can tell her how much it turns you on when she takes control and takes what she wants, but that's still telling her what to do and giving her permission to act out. Society conditions girls to be submissive and not to take the lead, so go with it.
Author:  Advice [ Fri Oct 26, 2007 3:43 am ]
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you simply say yea this is boring, lets bounce back to my place... I got this funny ass movie/ sweet tropical fish/ a hot tub/ or whatever, whatever you think you could say that would interest her... women are 66% more likely to agree if you say "because" whatever... in her mind she knows what you're thinking but she justifies going home with you "because" you said you wanna show her whatever... if you say hey lets go back to my place vs. hey lets go back to my place, I wanna show you my dog, he's the cutest little thing ever....
what do you think she's more likely to agree to???
Author:  neogamer [ Fri Oct 26, 2007 5:17 pm ]
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A PUA must be flexible. She was older, obviously more experienced, and knew what she wanted from our young friend who posted. Older women WANT and LIKE control, and that may be what she was attracted to. If our young friend tried to "take control of the frame" he might ruin exactly what she liked about him. He must present himself the way she wants him to be, if he wants to get laid.
Nah, even the experienced women are more submissive and like to be lead, that's just how they have been conditioned all their lives. Once you get them home and have established that you are going to fuck her brains out, then you can tell her how much it turns you on when she takes control and takes what she wants, but that's still telling her what to do and giving her permission to act out. Society conditions girls to be submissive and not to take the lead, so go with it.
I think you're right. Fucking take the lead, always. Explains some failures on my part.
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