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Author:  JackMitchell [ Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:39 pm ]
Post subject:  So why couldn't I close this?

Ok, this happened a while ago, but it's kinda been bugging me.

I thought this girl was really into to me. I mean, I would stay over her house until four in the Am... and we really had comfortable kino going on. Well one night I started a game of questions (which I like to play with girls because I can find out a lot in a little bit of time.) and I ended with the question would you go out with me. She says, I'm in an emotionally weird place right now. I was taken aback by the answer because she showed me tons of IOI's. . . Like, holding my hand during a movie. . . etc. So the conversation led to me saying look at the time, i gotta go. I haven't really talked to her. She's called me a couple of times, so I think I still have her interested. The only thing is, I don't know if I am really into her anymore.

Anyway. Was it just weird that she answered like that, or was there something I could have done?

Author:  hollywoodinpa [ Tue Oct 23, 2007 4:41 pm ]
Post subject:  HEY

She prob. was telling the truth. She was and still is interested in you but maybe she had just broke up with someone or had family issues. You really don't know. But I would have deff. still played the game because if your smart you could have maybe helped with those issues and then BAM shes yours.As long as you steered clear of the LJBF zone. Also you might have played it smart by doing your own thing for awhile because it shows your not needy and now she wants you because now maybe she can't have you. So I would just play it cool like it's no big deal not to have her and then she'll want you even more as long as you still give her kino. That is if you even want her. I'm sure others will give good advice to.

Author:  L.A. Tripp [ Wed Oct 24, 2007 1:58 am ]
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You said this happened a while ago, so my question is, how long ago was the last time she called and have you talked to her AT ALL since that call? You may have already lost your window. Of course, if you don't want her, it doesn't matter.

Author:  Rye Lee [ Wed Oct 24, 2007 6:01 am ]
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Because you asked. Its one of those questions that you don't ask, because if you have to ask, then the answer is no. You need to just take. Instead of sitting there and playing a game of questions until 4 in the morning doing light kino, escalate the kino and then start kissing her. From there, you take control of the situation and once you have her wanting you, it doesn't matter whether or not she'll go out with you, because you're already in a relationship.

I've said this a couple times already, but seriously, get a copy of David Shade's Secrets of Female Sexuality. It is a great insight into how to treat women to empower you and her and make things go the way you want. Women are feminine, men are masculine. We are not equal, we are complimentary parts of something. They want to be led and we lead, so they follow.

Author:  Raykast [ Wed Oct 24, 2007 7:49 pm ]
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Okay, time to open up the good book. .... Mystery Method .... hmmmm... lets see ... Ah , here it is. Its called Plausible Deniability. This is pretty much what Rye Lee is talking about. You don't ever ever ever make her responsible for taking a step forward in the relationship. Why? It FEEL's better then you do it for them. She wouldn't be in a weird place emotionally if you had made the whole experience right for her.

Author:  neogamer [ Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:05 pm ]
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Seems to me if you're hanging out at her place at 4 AM you ARE going out with her. The question is, can you create some sexual tension, make out and have sex. At some point you have to just go for it. If she resists, you freeze out, recalibrate, and head back in.

She's in a "weird" place? Women are always in a weird place. Plow on.

Author:  Rye Lee [ Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:54 pm ]
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Seems to me if you're hanging out at her place at 4 AM you ARE going out with her.
This is exactly the point I was talking about. It doesn't matter what you are doing or not doing with the girl. You might be seeing her 3 times a week or more and having regular sex with her and all your friends and family know her, then you say, "So, we're boyfriend and girlfriend, right?" and she might decide that she doesn't really wanna move that fast, because she is in a wierd place.

Men are the dominance to women's submissiveness. We are the lead and they follow. This is how it works in dance and this is how it works in relationship and PU. As David Shade says, "She should always be able to say, 'It just happened!'" If she can say that you asked her out and she said yes, or you said you wanted to sleep with her and she said yes, then you didn't do it right and she will likely say 'no'. Take the lead, let her know where its going, but you don't have to put it into words that she can say 'no' to, because that is the common response, even when she wants you to fuck her over the kitchen table, because thats just how society and nature has forced women to be.

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