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Author:  Thebum23 [ Tue Oct 02, 2007 5:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Opening a Group Set!!!!

Ok, so i know how Mystery stresses that group sets are the way to go...My concern is, if you open a set with a group of girls and guys wont the guys get angry and look to pick a fight??? Should i just stick to sets of girls???

Author:  The Wild One [ Tue Oct 02, 2007 5:46 pm ]
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They wont get mad at you without you saying something to get them angry. If you approach a three set with two guys and one girl you would occupy the guys with a hook, and random topic to play with. Then you neg the girl, and keep the guys occupied then you need to move her away from them. Ask a question like hey how do you people know each other. That will give you valuable information on the group to use to your advantage. This weekend I was winging with a buddy of mine, and their was a good looking girl with a guy. I simply occupied the guy for awhile, and asked so are you two together. To which the girl immediately replied NO. The guy liked her but when she said that it took the wind out of his sails, and he was done. My buddy reaped the rewards of a good wingman that night, and so did I. Don't forget to use time constraints when meeting groups.

Author:  Mech [ Tue Oct 02, 2007 5:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Opening a Group Set!!!!

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Ok, so i know how Mystery stresses that group sets are the way to go...My concern is, if you open a set with a group of girls and guys wont the guys get angry and look to pick a fight??? Should i just stick to sets of girls???
Guys are treated exactly the same way as girls you're not attracted to. You can befriend them while teasing the target.

Here's a question to think about: Why would the guys get angry?

If your answer is "because I'm hitting on a girl in their set", you now know precisely why we use false disqualifiers (i.e., negs) and avoid telegraphing interest.

As the poster above me said, you should always ask "How do you all know eachother?". I believe that I ask this question in every single set, regardless of whether it's all girls or mixed.

Author:  saqchek [ Tue Oct 02, 2007 8:05 pm ]
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They won't know what's going on if you run your game right. You come in like some innocent person passing by and stops to ask a question.

(open from the side and use FTC)
(once question hooks...face group)
(listen to answers and counter talk)
(transition to another topic....possibly FTC again)
(use DHVs in stories..etc)
(ask how they know each other at some point)***
(ignore the target of choice while continuing conversation)
(neg target ...if needed...negs aren't always needed folks)



***this is key because it can provide valuable information on who they are and if you need to be on your toes with the boyfriend.


You should treat the guy just like another girl really. You have to disarm the obstacles in the set to get your prize. That includes AMOGs and other girl friends. If done right, you can still the girl right from under her boyfriend and he not know any difference. If it comes down to him wanting to fight you, just apologize and politely tell them have a wonderful night.

Author:  They Call Me Lucid [ Tue Oct 02, 2007 8:38 pm ]
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If it comes down to him wanting to fight you, just apologize and politely tell them have a wonderful night.
it seems easier to distract guys because i am a guy. use a little game or magic trick or whatever. if its cool, the guy will be happy and think your cool. so i guess if you play it right you should never get into any beef with a guy. would kicking his ass be dhv? haha

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