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This really couldn't be more spot on. Especially with younger girls. God help me, im dealing with a young girl right now who ALWAYS starts right away with the sexual innuendos and asking how she'd looking in certain clothing/costumes. Never buy into this. If you say, "Oh, you'd look so hot baby! I'd screw yur brainz out wowwee!" you've failed.

Dont be ignorant or rude with your replies to things like this, but bust her balls a bit. I've never had a girl just flat out stop talking to me when I did this, it even made her text me even more now to the point of being annoying.

Then, when she starts hinting around about sex, personally, I think this is just another form of validation for her so I keep sex talk to a minimum, just enough to get them in a good mind set, and set up a time to "hang out". The flake percentage is higher when you tell girls to come over so you two can "fuck"...even when it's pretty established that you two will be intimate, make it sound pretty. Sprinkle some sugar on it.

"Well, I just picked up this movie a few days ago and I haven't watched it yet. You should come over and watch it with me. We'll make a night out of it and hang out." - Simple. You could be talking the most dirty filth beforehand but women dont want to feel like a booty call. Be classy about it.

She mentions other guys in every conversation and it annoys the cr@p out of me. "This guy wants me and that one too.. He runs after me like a dog and it bothers me sometimes.. I have a stalker.. "

Is it a good plan if I ignore her for a few weeks?

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She mentions other guys in every conversation and it annoys the cr@p out of me. "This guy wants me and that one too.. He runs after me like a dog and it bothers me sometimes.. I have a stalker.. "

When I read things like this, it's almost like the female version of just qualifying herself to you. She's practically screaming to you that she has men that want her. Dont read too much into it. Being unreactive to these types of things are key.

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Is it a good plan if I ignore her for a few weeks?

I dont think that'd be a good idea. For one reason -

"Being the friend isn't ALWAYS a bad thing."

There's being her gay friend that listens to all her little stories and then there's guy friends that she can confide in when she needs it. Personally, you can be in a GREAT position if you play your cards right here. Keep a light sexual air in your conversations but always leave her guessing and wanting more. "Does this guy really like me, or is her always like this? Hmm..."

Look at it this way, she's not happy in her relationship, right? So, when that inevitable break-up happens? Is she gonna wanna turn to the guy that ignored her because he doesn't wanna be only her friend or the guy that she can tell her deepest feelings to and be understood? The guy that can make her feel safe and happy? Thats who you want to be, all you have to do is be patient and be there when she wants to talk. Just dont be the woman in the conversation, keep a sexual male presence, and be the guy that can make light of all of her problems and make them go away. Make her feel good.

That all involves being patient with her, stop texting her so much, if altogether. She IS still in a relationship so she's gonna be too guilty to do anything in it. Just be understanding of that. Hell, when you talk with her, throw in something like, "Boy, if you weren't in a relationship....".

What can you do to avoid being used by women who use her tactics?

And how do you think that it's possible to "break her code" like the older guy did and get her to run after you instead of you running after her?

The thing is the older guy didn't really "break her code" as I bet she was not like this before she met him. Saying that it sounds like the guy showed her a wild side of sex and got her hooked on it. He most probably was working her for sometime, by slowly being more dominate over her by the day and deeper in the rabbit hole she went.

Author:	NoMoreMrNiceGuy [ Sun Nov 14, 2010 6:21 pm ]
Post subject:	exploiting insecurity in women
There are obvious patterns in some women's actions. But let me take one girl I know personally as an example. Even though she is very goodlooking, she can't help looking for confirmation of ANY guy around her. She even goes that far that she has short relationships with random boytoys so she can make sure that they really want her. And when it turns out that they do, she dumps them. She is constantly spreading love quotes on facebook. At least 10 of her guy friends think it's about them but she's playing with all of their heads and she enjoys this power. In fact I think she is addicted to it She has hurt dozens of guys, and has been hurt by 1 guy who is much older and abused her sexually. He used her as a sex toy and then dumped her after she lost her virginity to him. But regardless of what he did, it seems that it turns her on and she still has a crush on him. What can you do to avoid being used by women who use her tactics? And how do you think that it's possible to "break her code" like the older guy did and get her to run after you instead of you running after her? If she looks for your confirmation about her beauty, do you give in or do you ignore her to keep her wondering? My personal idea is that you have to keep these girls guessing. Never get in the position of showing her that they are the one you want. So what could you do to get her running after you in my opinion: - be cautious with giving her too much attention. - break down her confidence even more by disagreeing with her, but keep it a fun SPAM - mention that you are hanging out with other girls so she feels that there is competition if she wants you - let her know that the other girls want you (which is the case) Any ideas or additions to this?

Author:	Solteris [ Mon Nov 15, 2010 7:20 am ]
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This post has my seal of approval, but I haven't figured out a design. When I do, I'll post that shit. This really couldn't be more spot on. Especially with younger girls. God help me, im dealing with a young girl right now who ALWAYS starts right away with the sexual innuendos and asking how she'd looking in certain clothing/costumes. Never buy into this. If you say, "Oh, you'd look so hot baby! I'd screw yur brainz out wowwee!" you've failed. Dont be ignorant or rude with your replies to things like this, but bust her balls a bit. I've never had a girl just flat out stop talking to me when I did this, it even made her text me even more now to the point of being annoying. Then, when she starts hinting around about sex, personally, I think this is just another form of validation for her so I keep sex talk to a minimum, just enough to get them in a good mind set, and set up a time to "hang out". The flake percentage is higher when you tell girls to come over so you two can "fuck"...even when it's pretty established that you two will be intimate, make it sound pretty. Sprinkle some sugar on it. "Well, I just picked up this movie a few days ago and I haven't watched it yet. You should come over and watch it with me. We'll make a night out of it and hang out." - Simple. You could be talking the most dirty filth beforehand but women dont want to feel like a booty call. Be classy about it.

Author:	NoMoreMrNiceGuy [ Mon Nov 15, 2010 8:41 am ]
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Quote: This post has my seal of approval, but I haven't figured out a design. When I do, I'll post that shit. This really couldn't be more spot on. Especially with younger girls. God help me, im dealing with a young girl right now who ALWAYS starts right away with the sexual innuendos and asking how she'd looking in certain clothing/costumes. Never buy into this. If you say, "Oh, you'd look so hot baby! I'd screw yur brainz out wowwee!" you've failed. Dont be ignorant or rude with your replies to things like this, but bust her balls a bit. I've never had a girl just flat out stop talking to me when I did this, it even made her text me even more now to the point of being annoying. Then, when she starts hinting around about sex, personally, I think this is just another form of validation for her so I keep sex talk to a minimum, just enough to get them in a good mind set, and set up a time to "hang out". The flake percentage is higher when you tell girls to come over so you two can "fuck"...even when it's pretty established that you two will be intimate, make it sound pretty. Sprinkle some sugar on it. "Well, I just picked up this movie a few days ago and I haven't watched it yet. You should come over and watch it with me. We'll make a night out of it and hang out." - Simple. You could be talking the most dirty filth beforehand but women dont want to feel like a booty call. Be classy about it. I understand the general idea of the power of ignoring. But if you never give them anything they lose interest. So you have to keep a healthy balance of attention I guess. I wonder how that is translated into practice: few examples.. facebook: click on this page if you love me (15 guys clicking around) --> ignore this obviously conversation: "I like this guy and that one but right now I'm seeing that guy" --> can't ignore, but can I gently make clear that this is slutty behavior? She mentions other guys in every conversation and it annoys the cr@p out of me. "This guy wants me and that one too.. He runs after me like a dog and it bothers me sometimes.. I have a stalker.. " "People call me a slut sometimes and it hurts me" --> I never tell her that she is right because tbh she is a total attention slut texting: She barely ever texts first. She only replies. If I don't text her it takes a week before I hear from her Right now I think she sees me as the guy she can talk to, but she finds me attractive too. My feelings for her are purely sexual and I can talk to her too but it's not my intention to be her shoulder to cry on. Is it a good plan if I ignore her for a few weeks? I am also dating other women and she knows that. I wonder if saying that those girls are after me will make her want me more or make her lose interest.

Author:	Solteris [ Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:01 am ]
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Quote: She mentions other guys in every conversation and it annoys the cr@p out of me. "This guy wants me and that one too.. He runs after me like a dog and it bothers me sometimes.. I have a stalker.. " When I read things like this, it's almost like the female version of just qualifying herself to you. She's practically screaming to you that she has men that want her. Dont read too much into it. Being unreactive to these types of things are key. Quote: Is it a good plan if I ignore her for a few weeks? I dont think that'd be a good idea. For one reason - "Being the friend isn't ALWAYS a bad thing." There's being her gay friend that listens to all her little stories and then there's guy friends that she can confide in when she needs it. Personally, you can be in a GREAT position if you play your cards right here. Keep a light sexual air in your conversations but always leave her guessing and wanting more. "Does this guy really like me, or is her always like this? Hmm..." Look at it this way, she's not happy in her relationship, right? So, when that inevitable break-up happens? Is she gonna wanna turn to the guy that ignored her because he doesn't wanna be only her friend or the guy that she can tell her deepest feelings to and be understood? The guy that can make her feel safe and happy? Thats who you want to be, all you have to do is be patient and be there when she wants to talk. Just dont be the woman in the conversation, keep a sexual male presence, and be the guy that can make light of all of her problems and make them go away. Make her feel good. That all involves being patient with her, stop texting her so much, if altogether. She IS still in a relationship so she's gonna be too guilty to do anything in it. Just be understanding of that. Hell, when you talk with her, throw in something like, "Boy, if you weren't in a relationship....".

Author:	NoMoreMrNiceGuy [ Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:26 pm ]
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Quote: Quote: She mentions other guys in every conversation and it annoys the cr@p out of me. "This guy wants me and that one too.. He runs after me like a dog and it bothers me sometimes.. I have a stalker.. " When I read things like this, it's almost like the female version of just qualifying herself to you. She's practically screaming to you that she has men that want her. Dont read too much into it. Being unreactive to these types of things are key. Quote: Is it a good plan if I ignore her for a few weeks? I dont think that'd be a good idea. For one reason - "Being the friend isn't ALWAYS a bad thing." There's being her gay friend that listens to all her little stories and then there's guy friends that she can confide in when she needs it. Personally, you can be in a GREAT position if you play your cards right here. Keep a light sexual air in your conversations but always leave her guessing and wanting more. "Does this guy really like me, or is her always like this? Hmm..." Look at it this way, she's not happy in her relationship, right? So, when that inevitable break-up happens? Is she gonna wanna turn to the guy that ignored her because he doesn't wanna be only her friend or the guy that she can tell her deepest feelings to and be understood? The guy that can make her feel safe and happy? Thats who you want to be, all you have to do is be patient and be there when she wants to talk. Just dont be the woman in the conversation, keep a sexual male presence, and be the guy that can make light of all of her problems and make them go away. Make her feel good. That all involves being patient with her, stop texting her so much, if altogether. She IS still in a relationship so she's gonna be too guilty to do anything in it. Just be understanding of that. Hell, when you talk with her, throw in something like, "Boy, if you weren't in a relationship....". How does the gay guy react to her convos and how does the straight guy? I think she knows that I find her hot. Lately she told me that my brother thinks I am in love with someone, she was fishing for information. I replied with "well there are so many pretty women out there. And I'd never tell my brother about it anyway" She's not in a relationship now but flirts around with dozens of guys, a different one every weekend. I find her slutty but I also find her damn hot. She trusts me completely (and she can), I am the only guy who knows that she is no longer a virgin since that fucktard made her lose it. She tells me her stories and they involve a lot of guys. She's either attempting to make me jealous or she really has feelings for 3 guys at the same time. At some point I realize that she is a slut, but I would like her to be my private slut. Sounds harsh but that's how it is. She is a total nympho and it turns me on. On the other hand I am the type of guy that goes for a long relationship and not 2 weeks of playing around to get dumped. I think that I would be a nice conquest for her because I am older. So a part of me wants to fuck her brains out and the other part says she's no good to get close to

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Author:	jurupa [ Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:46 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: exploiting insecurity in women
Quote: What can you do to avoid being used by women who use her tactics? Don't commit and be dominate over her. Quote: And how do you think that it's possible to "break her code" like the older guy did and get her to run after you instead of you running after her? The thing is the older guy didn't really "break her code" as I bet she was not like this before she met him. Saying that it sounds like the guy showed her a wild side of sex and got her hooked on it. He most probably was working her for sometime, by slowly being more dominate over her by the day and deeper in the rabbit hole she went.

Author:	NoMoreMrNiceGuy [ Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:18 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: exploiting insecurity in women
Quote: The thing is the older guy didn't really "break her code" as I bet she was not like this before she met him. Saying that it sounds like the guy showed her a wild side of sex and got her hooked on it. He most probably was working her for sometime, by slowly being more dominate over her by the day and deeper in the rabbit hole she went. You sound like an experienced guy and I would like to have your opinion on this. When I first met her I really liked her and wanted to get to know her. As I got to know her I found out about that guy and heard that the girl was seeing multiple guys at the same time. In some way I hate it but in an other way it turns me on A few weeks later I talked about her with one of my best friends. He used to have a crush on her and told me that he keeps a distance from her since she met that guy, because he has turned her into a slut. He hates his guts and wants to beat him up because of what "he did" (Whereas I think that she is responsable for her own acts) I used to think that she is an insecure girl that is confused, but day after day she confirms that she has become a real slut and that she manipulates guys 24/7. Like you say it, deeper into the rabbit hole she went. I have no idea why I feel attraction for women like her. It has happened to me earlier on too and I got hurt pretty badly. I guess that it's her strong hunger for sex (no matter with who) that turns me on. Anyway right now I am at a point where I want to avoid seeing her again because I think it's best if I don't get to know her better. There's no way to get her back out of the rabbit hole I think. Because she has wrong friends with the same tendencies. After losing her virginity she has made out (no sex though) with 3 different guys in 1 month and right now she is using another 2nd choice boytoy because her first choice is strong enough to say no to sluts

Author:	JOHNNYBOY29 [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 5:59 pm ]
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I have a quick question. This girl I like is fairly insecure - she could give off this vibe that she is confident etc but deep down I know she is insecure. She is always defensive and argumentative. Today - Im at work she is on leave. i text her saying that "The office is quieter when she isnt in" i alluded that I missed her. She responds saying that " I barely talk to her and that i MUST BE MISSING ALL THE YOUNG GIRLS ON STUDY LEAVE ETC" She is insecure that i talk to everyone else but her. If you didnt like the person - would you give a shit whether that person was chatting to other women or people? nothing is going on with these girls but it appears that whenever I say something "nice" she challenges it by bringing out her insecurity. Last week - I said to her I enjoyed chatting to her she responds saying that " I dont even show it" Should i just ignore her challenges? her insecurities that she is portraying? The thing is i could totally say the same about her towards me but never have done as I have never wanted to come off as wussy or needy. I dont need help with this girl but trying to understand how the insecure female brain works.

Author:	big rez [ Mon Mar 25, 2013 6:20 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: exploiting insecurity in women
really condone in what you guys are doing here great stuff wondering if you guys could help me with my sinareo i met a girl a while ago on a night out with her friend they both told me they were 17 (i am in england all legal) i spent the night with them i obviously like one of them but at one point in the evening she split off from me and started dancing with this huge dude but shooting me eyes at the same time so i decided to pull her mate nothing much happened after that but she phoned me 2 weeks later as she was out and wanted me to accompany her i got her back to my mates that night but she was not up for anything she was a bit out of it so i left it and took her home since then i have bin speaking to her quite regularly by facebook and text i have discovered that she is actualy only 16 and her birthday is coming up (which to be honest was a shock but made me feal better about playing the long game i have a few girls on the go but this thing is like some golden fleece pussy) i am now almost sure she is a virgin as she has alot of trouble talking about her history and dosent seem to be damaged goods she is open with me in general says she thinks of me as a friend but says she is intrigued by to be honest it sounds more in self defense than actual truth ordinarily i would leave it cos its too much hassle but i aint goin without sex and i would realy love this one for the bedpost or potentially longer recently i asked her out which she was realy vague about but dosent seem of the idea i know she is insecure about her looks and herself in general aint rele played on that yet anyone got any suggestions cheers rez

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