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Author:  Vagrant [ Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:43 am ]
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Hey Brethren :D

Earlier today I was with a former colleague I had been tuning for a while, she was responding to my advances and seemed to be having a good time with everything. After lunch I invited her back to my place to watch a movie. We sat down on the couch and after some bbasic stuff I got a little closer, not even that close and she kinda freaked a little.

After the whole cat string theory I managed to get her in my arms for the movies, then as I was kissing her, she pulled away saying she can't, I tried again but she seemed pretty adamant so I stopped. The movie (Year One, friggin Great) had some religious themes in it, and near the end, she asked me on my thoughts of religion, I was brutally honest about what i thought about monotheistic religions in general and she seemed very offended, it turns out she is a very deep christian! The kind that believes in no sex before marriage... At first I thought maybe it was an excuse or some kind of gimmick but after hearing her monologue on God it's pretty clear she's hardcore.

Anyways after organizing to meet up again next week (during the day of course, night is the devils time) I dropped her off. So my question, how the hell do I deal with the religious objection? Is there a way? I tried being gentle and reassuring as possible but this seemed even more to strengthen her resolve.

So is there a way? Or is it a lost cause?
Author:  cerebralassassin [ Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:44 am ]
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hate to say it, it may be a lost cause a problem with the deeply religious is that they are VERY unlikely to change their belief system for you, the only way that your gonna sleep with her is if you put a ring on her finger!!!
Author:  Vagrant [ Sat Apr 17, 2010 12:40 pm ]
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cheers for the response mate, defintely seems like it might be best, But do you know of any ways to break the religious objection in general? I was using today as an example. Or when it comes to religion of any kind, best just avoid?
Author:  cerebralassassin [ Sat Apr 17, 2010 1:09 pm ]
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if a person has a very strong belief wether it be religion or vegatarianism youre not gonna be able to break it, try and get a vegetarian to eat meat see the response you get, they'll get angry and say you dont respect or understand their belief
Author:  TheOne87NL [ Sat Apr 17, 2010 1:36 pm ]
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well there is just one way... pace and lead her in very small steps towards what you want, works sometimes for me, even a few times with muslim girls... though make one mistake by taking a too big step and you'll ruin it (sometimes forever).
though you have already ruined it for this girl i think...

next time - try to find out how important religion is for them, answer in a way you go with their flow of believes en try to steer that flow in the direction you want. basicly you can change any believe, just do it in very tiny little small steps a time otherwise their mind will reject it or blackout and it will work against you.
I don't believe either in any god either, but i show a lot of interest in their beliefs and traditions. worked anytime for me
Author:  jackb1900 [ Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:15 pm ]
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Hey Brethren :D

Earlier today I was with a former colleague I had been tuning for a while, she was responding to my advances and seemed to be having a good time with everything. After lunch I invited her back to my place to watch a movie. We sat down on the couch and after some bbasic stuff I got a little closer, not even that close and she kinda freaked a little.

After the whole cat string theory I managed to get her in my arms for the movies, then as I was kissing her, she pulled away saying she can't, I tried again but she seemed pretty adamant so I stopped. The movie (Year One, friggin Great) had some religious themes in it, and near the end, she asked me on my thoughts of religion, I was brutally honest about what i thought about monotheistic religions in general and she seemed very offended, it turns out she is a very deep christian! The kind that believes in no sex before marriage... At first I thought maybe it was an excuse or some kind of gimmick but after hearing her monologue on God it's pretty clear she's hardcore.

Anyways after organizing to meet up again next week (during the day of course, night is the devils time) I dropped her off. So my question, how the hell do I deal with the religious objection? Is there a way? I tried being gentle and reassuring as possible but this seemed even more to strengthen her resolve.

So is there a way? Or is it a lost cause?
It isn't a lost cause, I've heard tons of girls who spout non-sense like that constantly. Yet, they are getting fucked the very next week? Women will allow their brains to take them anywhere, the point is to turn off her rational mind and allow her to just go with the flow.

I would say you did a good job, you put your intentions out there, but what does no sex before marriage have to do with you getting a kiss? I suggest next time you hang out to just be like, "We should be friends, I'm just going to end up corrupting your innocent mind. I have this really nice buddy who loves going to church, you want me to introduce you two?"

Disqualify yourself as chasing her, right now she is thinking you just want pussy. Which isn't a bad thing, but when you are trying to get it just from her it is...
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Ever thought about respecting someone's beliefs and moving on? That's always an option.
Lol, don't listen to this guy. Respect her beliefs? Haha, what, the fact that she believes in talking snakes and virgin births?
Author:  The Omega Man [ Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:24 pm ]
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Get her to sit down with you and watch Zeitgeist the movie, should do the trick
Author:  Vagrant [ Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:04 pm ]
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Listen I'm not here to shake anyones faith, I'm here to learn how to work my around it. Thankyou for the advice all, the removing myself is pretty brilliant.

Theres always gonna be girls who throw out the religious objection, the majority of these are not religious by choice and want sex more then you do, so just calm down boys. If I felt for even one second she didn't actually want it I'd leave it. Remember she said "she can't" not she didnt want to. And it was her descision to meet up again next week.

PS. I'm not taking her virginity, she said she's done twice before, moments of weakness...

Thanks all, friggin love ya's
Author:  jackb1900 [ Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:07 pm ]
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Listen I'm not here to shake anyones faith, I'm here to learn how to work my around it. Thankyou for the advice all, the removing myself is pretty brilliant.

Theres always gonna be girls who throw out the religious objection, the majority of these are not religious by choice and want sex more then you do, so just calm down boys. If I felt for even one second she didn't actually want it I'd leave it. Remember she said "she can't" not she didnt want to. And it was her descision to meet up again next week.

PS. I'm not taking her virginity, she said she's done twice before, moments of weakness...

Thanks all, friggin love ya's
Haha, freaking brilliant! Not even a virgin, and you are absolutely correct, she said "can't" not, "I don't want to fuck you."
Author:  cerebralassassin [ Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:25 pm ]
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well that changes the landscape shes not immoral shes just hypocritical! people who say i wont have sex for religion DONT HAVE SEX FOR RELIGION!!!

Lets looks at the jonas brothers, they dont have sex with their fans for religious reasons, These boys are in their prime age, COULD HAVE MORE SEX WITH ANYONE ON THIS FORUM PUT TOGETHER and they dont!!! without knocking belief or being branded blasphemus WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THEM!!!
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