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| Author: | .EnVy. [ Sat Sep 01, 2007 4:51 pm ] |
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Openers are very easy for me. I have no problems with talking to women. The only issue I have a problem with, is where do I go after I open the conversation? For example: "I have a friend and he's going out with this girl that he really likes. She got a little too wasted at a party and made out with a girl. Would you consider that cheating?" After the opener, the question is gone and over with--I don't know what to say after that. Any suggestions? |
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| Author: | BlackBull [ Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:44 pm ] |
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I love how your post is arranged,ironically like a haiku. lol.j/k bro. Use what she says to continue the convo. As the conversation process goes: Create-Send-Receive-Interpret-Repeat. You create a conversation opener in your head,you go to target and send the message,she receives it,she interprets it,then creates feedback,sends it to you,you receive it,you interpret it,repeat for desired result. It's like Ping Pong. Think about it. |
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| Author: | .EnVy. [ Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:00 pm ] |
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Hahaha yeah, I just really hate it when lines in a post seem to continue off the page, so I just try to organize them into small paragraphs. I understand what you're saying. The only problem is that the ping pong effect won't work all the time. My worst encounter with this gambit was: Me: " (I tell the gambit). " HB: "Yeah, that's cheating." Me: "You think so? What makes you say that?" HB: "I don't know." ...okay now what? The conversation is over. |
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| Author: | Ratsofackation [ Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:30 pm ] |
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You can be like "you've...done it before, haven't you? made out with a girl I mean" Gradually smiling more and more "It's okay, I have nothing against people who swing that way", that should work, even after she says "i don't know", as long as you control her own facial expression with your smile? It's really not that hard, dude, just improvise. Be careful about where you want to take the relationship though, because if a girl says she has feelings of love for you, chances are she's lying. |
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| Author: | .EnVy. [ Sat Sep 01, 2007 10:50 pm ] |
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That's a great piece of advice. I'm liking that neg by the way hahahaha. I'll try that out. Thanks, dude. |
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| Author: | The SpermiN8or [ Sat Sep 01, 2007 11:59 pm ] |
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I like that opener... If the chick agrees to making out with other chicks in public places. You could always roll your eyes and say "how cliche...do you have a tribal tattoo on your lower back?" |
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| Author: | Linx [ Sun Sep 02, 2007 2:33 am ] |
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I don't let people off with I don't know answers. "I don't know" is apathy. We are not striving to make women feel apathetic. We are striving for emotion. Push them toward an answer in a fun or teasing way or neg them on their lack of opinions or neg them for being boring, uninteresting, or shy. However, an IDK answer to a stranger is most likely an IOD because she doesn't feel comfortable enough yet. Maybe you haven't perfected the opener itself yet. How many times have you run it and how many of those open and how many return with the IDK response? You're never chained to one place. When first working on openers just worry about openers. Run the opener, wait for a response, and then leave and open another set. If you drop FTCs then this looks natural and makes you seem like you have an I don't give a fuck attitude. |
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| Author: | BlackBull [ Sun Sep 02, 2007 5:04 am ] |
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Quote: Me: " (I tell the gambit). "
You:You dont know,and yet you accuse me of cheating?Hmmm...I dont think this is going to work.HB: "Yeah, that's cheating." Me: "You think so? What makes you say that?" HB: "I don't know." ...okay now what? Calibration holmes. Keep talking to a lot of people,and you will get used to impromptu gaming,which is essential. [/quote] |
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| Author: | Difference [ Sun Sep 02, 2007 6:36 am ] |
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Quote: I love
hahahaha I laughed out loud..how your post is arranged,ironically like a haiku. And nice advice there. If you find the conversation starting to dwindle, don't be the guy that just stands there and goes "err.. sooo......" and creates an awkward silence. When going into the set, make sure you chuck in a time constraint, so if the convo is started to die out, you can get out of there, leaving it possible to come back later if you compose yourself. |
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| Author: | .EnVy. [ Sun Sep 02, 2007 3:14 pm ] |
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Wow, those are all great replies. Thanks guys lol I didn't think I would get this much feedback. Well this opener I've tried quite often, and it works most of the time. I have no problem opening the sets. It's juss that sometimes, I get "those girls" that just don't give a shit and seem to give one-word answers. So I was just seeing what I could do to keep it going. All of that sounds great, thanks for all the help, fellas. |
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| Author: | Alpha Mike [ Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:27 am ] |
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well im really new to all this pua and was just reading all these comments and understand that when a girl says IDK back you just seem to freeze and BAM...akward silence. would a answer back to any IDK answers be something like "wow your boring" then start to turn around to walk off. you think she might stop you and engage in a convo cuz that would seem like i negged her right? would any neg do? |
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| Author: | Mr Fahrenheit [ Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:10 am ] |
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or she might not engage you in a 'convo' and you've just lost her. If your really that afraid of IDK's then get a shirt that has a flashing LED sign that says something bizare on it, that way even if shes looking straight ahead you can assume shes looking at your shirt then talk to her about it. |
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