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| Author: | Crowd [ Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Report or Stronger Text-Game? |
The path that I've been taking, as many of you have taken/are taking, consists of going out 4 nights a week and constantly day gaming. I'm doing an intensive with my local lair that is proving to be ass-kickingly good. Now, I've been going out 5 nights a week and running various drills (silly peacocking, one-line openers, social circling the bar, dance floor report, etc.), but what I've been noticing is something beyond my current logistical understanding: 1) I can stay in sets for say an hour and establish a large amount of report which makes returns much more consistent (or maybe just easier). 2) I can play it like a numbers game and spend 30 mins in a set, and double the amount of phone numbers I get, and then spout off with some tactical text game. Both get me laid. Now, 1 feels more rewarding and gratifying. 2 is a lot more work and is much more hit or miss, but gives you more freedom in your night. Both have yielded me the same amount of lays. I'm finding positives and negatives to both. What do you think? |
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| Author: | Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Mon Nov 23, 2009 12:03 pm ] |
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I feel like a number close is basically worthless unless you've already sexually escalated at least to some degree. If I have a k-close, the number is gonna be 70-80%, whereas if I don't, that number will drop to about 20-30%. No amount of funny or clever text shit, in my opinion, will make a girl go from sort of remembering you in the club, to wanting to have sex with you. It's only going to be applicable to those girls who definitely remember you as a fun guy who was confident about sexually escalating, and who they found attractive (unless they're planning on LJBFing you). So, your very question is faulty. It's not RAPPORT that matters, its COMFORT. Comfort building, which includes kino plowing and other forms of sexual and verbal escalation, is what gets her panties wet. For me, no text can possibly equal or better the act of sitting down, arm around her, whispering in her ear, brushing cheeks, looking into her eyes, seeing them dilate, seeing her blush. That is what game is about. If you're in the same set for an HOUR, then you should work on isolating and building comfort more quickly in my opinion. If you're in set and things are going well, within 5-15 minutes you should "borrow" your target away from the set and start comfort building. If you're in set for 15-20 minutes and you haven't got a single IOI and barely a laugh amongst them, tell them to have a good night and get the fuck out of there. Why plow for another 20 when they're clearly not hooking? |
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| Author: | Crowd [ Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:26 pm ] |
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Hey! I appreciate your response; however, I feel as though there is some misconception across the board in the pick-up community. Establishing rapport (not report...my bad!) is making an emotional connection, which leads to the comfort that your talking about. You should be doing this synonymously with sexual escalation (i.e. verbal and kino). I know some guys have issues with sexual escalation, I am not one of them. Also, in regards to text game. You just let numbers die? Some of the people here maintain the philosophy that, "sleep is the great eraser." Meaning that texting or calling the next day is essentially like starting over, and it often is. If your interested, try this: Allow the numbers you've deemed "dead" to stew in purgatory for a month or so with no contact. Then send off a positive affirmation text that is meant to elicit no response (i.e. "You are a beautiful and amazing person! You know that right?"). You'd be surprised by how many women will not only feel validated by this, but also want to know who the charming individual is thats providing them with this validation! A few days later, send another one. - Mad props to GoneSavage, RP, and Gamer for help with text game. If your not tapping this potential, then your allowing technology to pass you by! While I appreciate you trying to help a brotha' out with advice, I'm not looking for advice as much as opinions. These are tried and true methods that have gotten me laid. I'm curious as to whether or not others feel one way or the other! But thanks for your thoughts! |
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