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Author:  DonPua [ Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:49 pm ]
Post subject:  window of opportunity
I read a book this week (I forgot the name of it but maybe some of you will recognize it) in which they say that when you are talking to a woman she will give you a window of opportunity in which you need to be able to escalate. If you don't escalate when she gives you this opportunity then the window will close and you lose her. Does anyone know how you can notice when this window of opportunity opens ?
Author:  SirKonstantine [ Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:56 pm ]
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Yes there are windows.

You notice them by going out enough. Once you have the infield experience, you can FEEL it. You will know when someone is ready to be kissed, when someone is ready to be extracted, and when someone is ready to be fucked.

Try going on the 3 failed makeout challenge. It'll let you develop the ability to know when a girl is ready to be kissed. http://www.rsdnation.com/node/83708
Author:  almost [ Sun Nov 22, 2009 2:10 pm ]
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i find it harder to get rejected from kisses than getting them, the strategy I use is somewhat similar to hitch. Hitch said that the man go in for the kiss 90% and let the other girl go the last 10%. If you leave SOME distance for the girl, you can never, ever truely be rejected. This may also be useful for you when testing when the girl is ready to be kissed, Suss it out a bit.

but this topic isn't about kisses specifically rather IOI/kino pinging in general? I've had it happen before, The girl shows STRONG IOIs- she asks logistical questions, Whats your name? where do you live? If you don't close on this then she finds something or someone shinier. :P
Author:  DonPua [ Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:21 pm ]
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Well, the reason why I started this thread is because sometimes I get this feeling that the girl suddenly seems to want something more but I don't escalate it further because I am not 100 % sure if my feelings are right. To give an example, last week a friend opened a 2 set. I was the wingman so while he was talking to his target, I kept the friend busy. Though the friend was cute too, I didn't really start talking to her with the intention to close her. As we were talking I noticed that everytime the conversation stopped, she reinitiated it. I was talking to her without doing any kino. At first I talked to her over my shoulder bit. Afterwards after a bit uncounscious moving we were almost talking face to face but there was quit some distance between us. Suddenly, out of the blue she came really close to me. She was almost standing between my legs and with her hands she slightly made contact with my hands. She stayed like that for a minute and then suddenly she backed off and turned a bit cold. Now, I don't know for sure if this 1 minute window was the window of opportunity that I missed. For me it looked like I got this window, didn't escalate and therefore she lost interest in me. Do I see this right or am I wrong ?
Author:  Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Sun Nov 22, 2009 5:24 pm ]
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No, you're right. She was hoping that you'd cotton on to her trying to give you a window, and then leave it to you to lead the interaction further. When you didn't she stopped trying and assumed you either didn't "get it" or just weren't interested in her.

If a girl is giving you a "window", it's basically just an IOI. It's licence to feel confident enough to start sexually escalating, if you haven't already been doing so. However, there's no need to wait for these "windows" before you feel confident enough to sexually escalate. You can go into the set ASSUMING attraction and just kino plow from the get go, because you KNOW that she's gonna be into you.
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