PUA Forum :: seduction stage - how did you first start out

That is a sticking point to you because of two key areas: kino and comfort building.

Kino may be good in the first two stages, but is it *that* good? After all, your kino escalation should be a natural progression that leads past seduction. If you are having problems moving to seduction, then maybe you are not developing kino to the level you should. Good kino is one thing. The level of kino needed for seduction is another.

Comfort building. About 80% of your interaction should be spent in comfort building. If you are not building enough comfort, when you move to seduction it will seem awkward and you will probably hit that "wall" where things just fall apart.

The last thing is confidence. Maybe your game is solid but you just need to have the courage to go for it when you have it. That's something you are going to have to figure out for yourself though... the only way be get confidence is to earn it.

Author:	NaturalE [ Tue Sep 29, 2009 6:04 pm ]
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Hey guys, not been on forums for a while but out alot and really enjoying the nights. I like to think im good with the first two phases (attraction and comfort building) but dont know about making it sexual/pulling the trigger. kino is fine within the two stages. I guess its a case that most people hit this point as it will always be the least practiced. so do you guys have a transition you use to get there or just jump right in as long as you have had enough compliance? Cheers PUAs NaturalE

Author:	leftytheking [ Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:12 am ]
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That is a sticking point to you because of two key areas: kino and comfort building. Kino may be good in the first two stages, but is it that good? After all, your kino escalation should be a natural progression that leads past seduction. If you are having problems moving to seduction, then maybe you are not developing kino to the level you should. Good kino is one thing. The level of kino needed for seduction is another. Comfort building. About 80% of your interaction should be spent in comfort building. If you are not building enough comfort, when you move to seduction it will seem awkward and you will probably hit that "wall" where things just fall apart. The last thing is confidence. Maybe your game is solid but you just need to have the courage to go for it when you have it. That's something you are going to have to figure out for yourself though... the only way be get confidence is to earn it.

Author:	coldtrain [ Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:47 am ]
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kino and sexual framing are key

Author:	NaturalE [ Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:18 pm ]
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lefty you may have a point there, but when you really think you are able to make it sexual, how do you start out into it?

Author:	Exerio [ Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:27 pm ]
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The thing about this is that you analyze how to pull it off. I know a lot of my friends that constantly analyze and they forget the important thing, you cannot be sensual and analyze at the same time. That breaks the frame. What you need to do in order to get things more sexual is just purely feeling horny and then progress with your desires. Because, if you think about them they will stop. And then there will be no sexual frame after all. - Exerio

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Author:	Johnny B. [ Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:15 pm ]
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Quote: That is a sticking point to you because of two key areas: kino and comfort building. Kino may be good in the first two stages, but is it that good? After all, your kino escalation should be a natural progression that leads past seduction. If you are having problems moving to seduction, then maybe you are not developing kino to the level you should. Good kino is one thing. The level of kino needed for seduction is another. Comfort building. About 80% of your interaction should be spent in comfort building. If you are not building enough comfort, when you move to seduction it will seem awkward and you will probably hit that "wall" where things just fall apart. The last thing is confidence. Maybe your game is solid but you just need to have the courage to go for it when you have it. That's something you are going to have to figure out for yourself though... the only way be get confidence is to earn it. Yeah, i totally agree! If you start wondering how to built comfort than i suggest that you try some funny DHV storys and tests like 5 lies game, masturbation test etc. + you can include cheap kino into these tests by telling her to that she must hold your hand while you do the test! And what comes to the confidence there is few ways to " improve " it: 1. Dont hold your hands crossed 2. Look straight into her eyes 3. Smile alot ( Style ) 4. Speak with your hands also, not only with your mouth 5. Dont lean foward to the girl when you speak to her ( Mystery ) [ Johnny B ]

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